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Think you are being a bit naive there Gav! Do you honestly think Neil would admit to a random Rovers' fan that he'd been sounded out particularly when the club has a manager in situ!?!? I'm pretty certain there's more to this than meets the eye!

A relative with good PNE connections has been flagging this possibility with me for the last 8/9 months. There would be no compensation now as he's out of work and where he lives, he's just a short 15/20 minute drive from Brockhall. I understand Wilder was sounded out some time ago but thought there were bigger fish in the sea than Rovers.

I posted this on Thursday and Nixon posts his story today. I stand by my Thursday post and think the next Rovers' manager will be either Alex Neil or Chris Wilder and sooner than many on here would think.

I think it is fair to assume all is not hunky dory at Rovers. I get the impression that morale is generally poor among staff. A number of us thought Mowbray would be through the exit door in days following the home defeat to Bournemouth back in April. IMO, there is neither rhyme nor reason behind many decisions made at Rovers. I think there is an air of unpredictability and idiosyncrasy about Rovers and despite having got off to a decent start and the closure of the transfer window, it would not surprise me in the least if we soon saw the departure of Mowbray.

Think Waggott is in his sixties and Mowbray and Venus mid to late fifties. I would think hunger and ambition deserted them a long time ago and who could blame them for wanting and maintaining hugely paid jobs on 'Easy Street'. I think they are third raters and probably know this in their own minds and Rovers are probably their last chance to top up pension funds. Staggering that the Raos and Suhail fail to see this.

If I was a 'prominent' Rovers' player with just 12 months remaining on my contract, I would simply look at what has happened at the club in recent times including this transfer window and say to myself 'why the hell do I want to stay here'. I think getting them to sign new contracts is highly unlikely and what we realise in fees will be minimal. I think our outlook is terrifying and goodness knows what our team will look like 12 months on. Sadly, unless, IMO, insanity prevails, Waggott and Mowbray will be out of it without a care in the world other than keeping track on their vastly enhanced bank accounts following their Rovers' employment.

Heard that Bolton in for Chapman.

It's very simple - I think we are a very poorly run club from top to bottom.

and I think that's £400k completely wasted. IMO, Waggott has brought nothing at all to the party, adding very little, if any, value.

Told it's still bubbling!

Mowbray in LT about Poveda: “He's played quite a bit in the Premier League quite and as I’ve talked about before, the salary level is way, way beyond where we can even think about.” As I posted on Tuesday, my understanding is that this is an expensive deal for Rovers (loan fee and wages). Those who thought the lad was on some £10/11k / week at Leeds need to think again. If what I've been told is correct, his salary at Leeds is substantially higher than our highest earner(s) and I understand he will be one of Rovers' highest earners (if not the highest) even though we will be paying only a part of his salary. I just hope the lad delivers!

And who do you think sowed the seeds!?!?

At least they will get there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We wont and sadly it will be a 'result' if we finish above bottom six. Think Mowbray's journey has been in reverse gear for most of his tenure. IMO, in the main, football under Mowbray has been amongst the most turgid I've seen in almost 60 years of watching Rovers. I would put it on a par with what we saw under the hapless Jim Iley. I think last season was an illusion. Started off decently with convincing wins against 10 man Coventry, 10 man PNE and an utterly shambolic Derby who shortly after sacked their manager. As for the three five goal performances you keep referring to - perspective called for. Second game of the season against Wycombe who were like lambs to the slaughter until they found their feet and sadly they were relegated. Two five goal wins in the last two home matches of the season - these were dead rubbers against a shambolic Brum who'd just sacked their manager and Bowyer threw a load of kids in and then an almost equally shambolic Huddersfield whose goalie gifted us at least three of those goals. I think Mowbray is a disaster and he's set the club back a million miles / years and it's doubtful we will ever recover. That run of 2 wins in 17 games will stick in the memory, for all the wrong reasons, for a long time and during that time, IMO, the manager's body language said it all; any man of integrity and principle would have walked away. I think 'I will not be a burden on this club' Mowbray's position is indefensible. God help us if he remains manager for much longer.

Think the other lad from Liverpool should happen before Saturday - no names as too sensitive.

If you are going to 'have a go' at me then please at least get your facts and argument right. Did I say he was on £40k a week at Leeds!? No, I said: We will not be paying the majority of his wages. "I think some of the wage levels quoted for the lad at Leeds earlier in this thread are ridiculously low. I'll leave you with this thought, we loan a young player from a PL club on a hypothetical £40k pw and we pay him £20k pw, we would not be paying the majority of the player's wages but we wouldn't half be paying some dollar. I was trying to demonstrate that even though we might not pay the majority of a loanee's wages, it may very well cost us top dollar. I understand his wages at Leeds are way in excess of £11k pw and Rovers will be paying in excess of £11k pw in wages. I am either right or wrong but I have a high degree of confidence in what I have been told. As for Armstrong, if you think it's close to £20million well good luck with that!.

He's made 14 appearances in the PL for Leeds (in the main as a sub) and featured in 30+ match day squads. I think it would be naive to think it's a 'cheap' loan signing in terms of loan fee and wages. PL clubs like Chelsea, City etc make very substantial monies from loans and I don't think Leeds will have done this out of the kindest of their heart.

I think your figures are very wrong. My understand is it is an expensive deal (loan fee and wages) for Rovers.

Understand it's an expensive deal for Rovers and the lad will be one of the highest paid players (if not the highest) we have. Also, believe there is another lad on his way from Liverpool on loan.

You first have to get to the Premier League!!!! WBA will walk it whilst the height of our ambitions seems to be retention of Championship status. It isn't - surely if players are of roughly the same ability then you go for the bigger unit, if available, for obvious reasons. These aren't perfect examples (and not necessarily players of equal ability) but illustrate the point I'm trying to make. Full back - Reece James or Gary Neville Centre back - Van Dijk or Ben White Midfield - Pogba or Alcantara Striker - Lukaku or Adam Armstrong

A good big 'un is always better than a good small 'un! The older members of this MB will remember little Johnny Price the winger who joined us from Stockport round about 1970. Johnny was only 5 foot 3 inches but had the heart of a lion and would run through brick walls for the cause. A very decent signing for Rovers at that time in our history. Sadly, Johnny died in his fifties.

Give it a rest Gav. Based on your comments over recent weeks, one could be forgiven for thinking you are on the Ewood pay roll! Your comments about Gallagher today are laughable - I expect every single player in blue and white to put a real shift in and work their socks off - IT IS A BASIC REQUIREMENT and not one that costs £5million and a fortune in wages.!!!!!

Is that the height of our ambitions!? Feck me, think Mowbray has done some job on our fans.

I do but what a feckin mess now. The point I was trying to make is what a small club like Brentford can do with proper management. IMO, Waggott and Mowbray are 10th raters and way out of their depth and that is why we are in such a feckin mess. You could sense the togetherness in the Brentford community (club, manager, players, fans). We can and should be like that but sadly we are now a million miles away from that and we might never get it back.

But wasn't it great. Just what the feck do we have to cheer about!?