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Our revenue only went up because of the new TV deal, without this it would’ve fallen instead. But as you say, most people won’t look for the details.

I think to be reasonably confident of survival we need to be looking at being on 30 points or more going into the New Year. With the fixtures between now and then, six games, and 18 points available, we need to be picking up at least 50% of the points on offer. The fixture list is as kind on paper as anyone could ask for. Twice playing administration stricken Sheffield Wednesday, a gimme for most teams in this league, also Oxford at home and Portsmouth away, two clubs we need to be finishing above. Millwall at home should not be a game to fear either. I've seen enough of this club over the years to never be confident of a 'home banker' no matter what state the opposition are in, so sadly I expect a couple of draws from this and Oxford, which will keep us bobbling along and the serious pressure off but not get us the return we need from two such significant home games.

There’s a case to be made that Mori (needlessly) goes down too easy in that situation and should be cautioned for diving, but then where does the yellow card to the Ipswich player come from? Just a monumental f***kup from the referee regardless of how you see the situation.

At this time of year Rovers invite friends and family of any supporter who has passed away in that year to remember them with their picture on the big screen. We used it last year after my brother had passed and it really is a worthwhile exercise. We really felt it was a fitting tribute after a lifetime of supporting Rovers. I would recommend anyone who has lost someone to take it up. The details are:

It isn’t blue & white specs, just a clear red card, irrespective of the relative speeds of Morishita and Davis. Had it been Miller on Hirst or Akpon, it would still be the most blatant red card. Your very valid point that the red card incident didn’t prevent us from seeing the game out, I couldn’t agree more.

Val knows.... Get them outed...!

Someone should do a version of it with his conspiracy tin hat on.

I'm cryin 🤣 OK last one Sorry Val... 🙏

Having watched the replay, and this may be where the debate with Miller has come from, but how has a guy floated it from in his own half and it’s gone right over Millers head and someone brings it down in our box? That’s absolutely basic. We’ve got 5 at the back, everyone behind the ball and we are undone by the most basic of hoofs forward.

We habitually lose to clubs at the bottom.

I was wondering if it caused him to be a bit more cautious surrounding the second.

There are a group right now who are being fast tracked. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2nd9zewx5o When I got on the referees list in 1995 an ex professional called Steve Baines also got on. He only did a few seasons due to his age but I know he automatically earned respect from players because of this. There have been/are several since Steve who have played at National Conference level. However there will never be any household names taking up refereeing because, quite simply it doesn't pay enough.

The meme potential for this image is unlimited.

I wonder if the ref was reprimanded for his first decision, thus leading to his second ?

Agreed. But (and absolutely no disrespect here) I am not aware of any players of the top 2 divisions who became refs. Probaly wrong -not sure.

Thanks for the more measured reply. I've never put anyone on ignore either. Everyone's entitled to an opinion on whether it was a red or not, the interpretation of the guidelines is fairly subjective. A lot have said it was a definite red, a few have said it definitely wasn't I'd fall somewhere in between "seen them given but wouldnt be surprised if it was a yellow either" camp. I wasn't initially taking issue with Arbitro saying it was a definite red, that's his prerogative. I was taking issue with his support for Ismael producing "the list" and complaining of some sort of vendetta against us by referees which in my book is excuse making, nothing more nothing less.

Curious given that RG stated that promotion wasn't really on the agenda.

Tavares really has been poor so far. Foreshaw was miles better! Hope he picks up soon..

I don’t have anyone on ignore, everyone entitled to an opinion. You have a well versed opinion on Tronstad and now Miller, your perogative. My issue was with you arguing with Arbitro, a first class referee for many years and probably, the most respected person on the Board as to whether the official got it wrong on the red card call. From my vantage point in the JWL, I was 100% certain it was a red card but I haven’t seen it on the TV. If Arbitro had posted today that it wasn’t and their was a good case for the referee making his decision, I would be happy to accept it basis his fairness, professional credentials and long first hand experience.

A good crowd helps and is a better experience for everyone including the players but don't expect more than 10k bums on home seats for this plus whatever they bring. Makes not a lot of difference to what happens on the pitch with our players and gaffer though. Except providing them with another weak excuse and deflection tactic in interviews. Sheff Weds get about 20k ish home fans who tend to be more vocal than an Ewood crowd these days but they are still shite because their team isn't strong enough. Ditto here.

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I'd imagine you have to apply that guideline on the assumption all players are of equal ability. You can't award a red if it's Messi going through and a yellow if it's Gueye. Opinions will presumably vary greatly on what constitutes an "obvious goalscoring opportunity" though. If you pull the incident last night back to the half way line would it still be one? Id say not but people might disagree.

I don't know if you should have out an emoji after that but it's about the denial of the opportunity, not the players ability.

Ray Tinkler? Keith Burge?

So no red card if the player was Makhtar Gueye and not Morishita ?