waggy Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 :rover:in the latest take over bid a figure off £55 million was banded about by the press,were does this figure come from. i remenber ewood being rebuilt for £30 million the current squad mus be worth £30-£50 million brockhall must be worth £10 million these figures do not add up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chocky Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 :rover:in the latest take over bid a figure off £55 million was banded about by the press,were does this figure come from. i remenber ewood being rebuilt for £30 million the current squad mus be worth £30-£50 million brockhall must be worth £10 million these figures do not add up Gate reciepts and results might have something to do with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftWinger Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 :rover:in the latest take over bid a figure off £55 million was banded about by the press,were does this figure come from. i remenber ewood being rebuilt for £30 million the current squad mus be worth £30-£50 million brockhall must be worth £10 million these figures do not add up How are the players valued though? In an accounting world aren't they valued at what they cost depreciating over the life of the contract or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 plus the sky money £30 million plus a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzanotsogreat Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 plus the sky money £30 million plus a season 40m Reasons of the clubs valuation: Levels of debt Ewood will no longer be worth 30 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Trustees bang head against brick wall. They get hammered for a fictitious price put about by Dan Williams then they get hammered for being greedy and now they are being hammered for not charging a high enough price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 Trustees bang head against brick wall. They get hammered for a fictitious price put about by Dan Williams then they get hammered for being greedy and now they are being hammered for not charging a high enough price! only asking a serious question,55 million seems a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_gallagher85 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Money. Where. Mouth. Is. Then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwilky Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 £55m sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 We might get 40m TV money per season but as 80% of that goes straight into the players and staffs pockets the investor don't see any of it. It's not profit or an asset, it is revune offset against massive costs. Plus whoever invests is expected to shell out money for transfers, and actually pretty much has to in order to stay competitive in the league. Plus our gates are amongst the lowest and we charge the lowest ticket price. Not alot worth investing in there! The only way to make money is to sell all our high earners and take the TV money. Thankfully that can't happen due to 20,000 people sitting in the stands each week who could stop it. To me 55m actually sounds a bit high considering it would be almost impossible to make any money. You wouldn't buy rovers as a business concern at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What makes me laugh the most is when the do there annual accounts and the value they give to the playing squad. I think it goes off what the paid – x% each year or something – rather than increasing as the players get better. Going off the current prices at a minimum anyone that bought Rovers are buying easily £75 million worth of playing talent (Samba £8m, Bentley £12m, Cruz £8m, Nelsen £6m, Reid, McCarthy, Pedersen all worth at least £5m each) – Except for maybe Ooijer, Tugay, Friedel and Mokoena, I don’t see any of our 1st 18 or so players that would go for less than £3 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarRaven Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What makes me laugh the most is when the do there annual accounts and the value they give to the playing squad. I think it goes off what the paid – x% each year or something – rather than increasing as the players get better. Going off the current prices at a minimum anyone that bought Rovers are buying easily £75 million worth of playing talent (Samba £8m, Bentley £12m, Cruz £8m, Nelsen £6m, Reid, McCarthy, Pedersen all worth at least £5m each) – Except for maybe Ooijer, Tugay, Friedel and Mokoena, I don’t see any of our 1st 18 or so players that would go for less than £3 million. Buying into £75m talent? So basically if you sold the 'machines' (which by the way you don't actually own!) that genrate the largest revenue streams for your bussiness you will be quids in? Can I suggesst you don't go into bussiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftWinger Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What makes me laugh the most is when the do there annual accounts and the value they give to the playing squad. I think it goes off what the paid – x% each year or something – rather than increasing as the players get better. Going off the current prices at a minimum anyone that bought Rovers are buying easily £75 million worth of playing talent (Samba £8m, Bentley £12m, Cruz £8m, Nelsen £6m, Reid, McCarthy, Pedersen all worth at least £5m each) – Except for maybe Ooijer, Tugay, Friedel and Mokoena, I don’t see any of our 1st 18 or so players that would go for less than £3 million. I can't see us getting 6m for Nelsen - or 5m for a player who's been injured for 2 years in Reid, 5m for a very out of form McCarthy and 5m for an ever more out of form MGP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What makes me laugh the most is when the do there annual accounts and the value they give to the playing squad. I think it goes off what the paid – x% each year or something – rather than increasing as the players get better. Going off the current prices at a minimum anyone that bought Rovers are buying easily £75 million worth of playing talent (Samba £8m, Bentley £12m, Cruz £8m, Nelsen £6m, Reid, McCarthy, Pedersen all worth at least £5m each) – Except for maybe Ooijer, Tugay, Friedel and Mokoena, I don’t see any of our 1st 18 or so players that would go for less than £3 million. Its funny thogh, this time last season Benni was worth 15m now he is probably barely worth 5m. How these things change. Realistically the market is so volatile that you can't really classify the players as assets. I mean in order to leave for free they can just wait out on their contracts. You could actually make more of a successful case for them being liabilities seeing as they hoover up 80% of all cash that passes through the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 What makes me laugh the most is when the do there annual accounts and the value they give to the playing squad. I think it goes off what the paid – x% each year or something – rather than increasing as the players get better. Going off the current prices at a minimum anyone that bought Rovers are buying easily £75 million worth of playing talent (Samba £8m, Bentley £12m, Cruz £8m, Nelsen £6m, Reid, McCarthy, Pedersen all worth at least £5m each) – Except for maybe Ooijer, Tugay, Friedel and Mokoena, I don’t see any of our 1st 18 or so players that would go for less than £3 million. I would have thought a club which increases its value on the basis of the players getting better would be on a rocky road. I think you'll find PL clubs write-down (or write-off) a players transfer fee over the life of the player's contract. As someone else said buy the factory, sell all the machinery and then start trying to make something? Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 40m Should cover the forecasted wage bill for 2007 / 2008 quite nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzanotsogreat Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Should cover the forecasted wage bill for 2007 / 2008 quite nicely Ill bet you a fiver the wage bill for this season is not 40million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftWinger Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Ill bet you a fiver the wage bill for this season is not 40million That's what Williams has forecasted it at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzanotsogreat Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 That's what Williams has forecasted it at minus savs 2 miilion +, 39 miilion i win the bet. 40 million or more he wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftWinger Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 minus savs 2 miilion +, 39 miilion i win the bet. 40 million or more he wins ...and what if the wage bill is "just" 39m? Hardly puts us in a wonderful financial position does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzanotsogreat Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 ...and what if the wage bill is "just" 39m? Hardly puts us in a wonderful financial position does it? were you quoting "Just" from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftWinger Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 were you quoting "Just" from I'm not quoting it from anywhere. You're being pedantic suggesting that our wage bill isn't 40m. The fact is - it's too high - hence us being skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 So we didn't pay Savage for half the year or Savage was on £4m- £80K a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwilky Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Ill bet you a fiver the wage bill for this season is not 40million We'll find out next January wont we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Ill bet you a fiver the wage bill for this season is not 40million Your on. I don't want to take advantage so must make you aware John Williams has state the wage bill for 2007 / 08 is forecasted at £40m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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