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7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Irrelevant imo, as with Waggott before him, if Ismael isnt up to the job (which for me he isnt) they need to go. 

As do Pasha and Gestede etc. 

Would be a few less things to worry about.

Wish I could get a job at this Club, you can perform as badly as you like and many people like RF99 go "It doesnt matter, it's all the owners fault. Crack on."

 

I definitely have never said that.

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Even if we were relegated I think it's unlikely Ismael would be sacked. He's got a 3-year contract, he's in this together with his henchmen and the owners wouldn't want to pay him or them off.

The club would even put a spin on the PR  post-relegation and the reasons for him staying "building for the long term", "3-year project", "believes we can bounce back straightaway", "looking forward to brighter future" etc etc etc

 

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3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Crap managers who get crap results get sacked. But that isn’t how this club operates. They have only sacked Coyle (and that was too late) in a decade.

The clamour to sack him isn’t there as what’s the point in clamouring for something that ain’t going to happen.

If people are going to take that attitude in general might as well just give up then. 

Forget the boycott as well. Just let them get on with it and do their worst.

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It shows a few things

One - that the absence of any serious discussion or pressure on the manager - not even an 'Ismael sort it out' to be heard - shows that pretty much everyone knows that it is all pointless - pointless moaning about the manager, pointless trying to apply pressure or demand better or a change, pointless even going down the route of talking about change. Partly because even the Venky apologists know all too well that there isn't a functioning football club here where trivial matters like performances and results, league position, or any other metric by which the rest of the football world operates gets applied. 

Everyone knows this, deep down, which is why there is a stupefied fatigued silence on such things at games. No point expending energy thinking or wanting a change, even when results and performances are poor. That's a core component of following a football club gone - people have learned to just tolerate a poor product because it is pointless asking for better. 

Two - that those out there who think he is doing a good job in the 'circumstances' are actually in their position silently acknowledging there that the owners have ruined us with their approach - because to say he's doing a good job with a 31% win record having inherited a side in the top 6 less than a year ago and now have it staring at relegation would be frankly laughable at any other club.

Here there is a genuine argument for it, not because clubs normally drop by 15-20 places in the space of six months, but because the conditions the owners have imposed us on - those that many apologists have defended - are what has ultimately caused this situation. The same people would never directly complain or criticise the owners, preferring to convince themselves that they are necessary, yet if we aren't blaming Ismael and his win record, who are we blaming?

 

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2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The same people would never directly complain or criticise the owners, preferring to convince themselves that they are necessary, yet if we aren't blaming Ismael and his win record, who are we blaming?

 

‘Crap support’, usually.

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