2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Ricceh]

44 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Must be, can't see how we could afford him otherwise, the other defender at Saint Etienne, Nade, will be in the same boat you'd think.

This is how I find out they got relegated too! 

I hope Davitashvili has a release clause. There's a transfer rumour to throw about!

[rob_of_the_rovers]

Montpellier were horrid last season, finished dead last on 16 points. Sagnan was pretty much every present for them apart from the odd injury. Seems like he was one of their better performers at least. 

Edited yesterday at 18:05 by rob_of_the_rovers

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Seems a bit rich to be pulling me up on an expectation that our budget will be low considering the fact that you keep saying that the budget is an exact amount (£5m) based on the words of a fraud in Suhail saying that we apparently spent £4-5m last season, then taking that as fact without questioning it and assuming we will have the higher end of that to spend on fees this summer.

I'm sorry I thought you have some inside info on what our budget was for the upcoming transfer window. 

It was roughly what we spend without Pasha saying it. Pasha's comments on the record and we will see in the accounts if his comments was right or not. 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I have said before that the majority of any budget we do have needs to be spent on the attack. I would be happy with Hyam, Batth, Carter and Wharton as a choice of 4. If Wharton is miles off fitness wise then a cheap 5th option would make sense. This player seems to have been sold for a decent fee not long ago so it would presumably take a decent chunk of any budget to bring him here. The priority obviously goes up if Batth goes but still.

It has been reported Wharton won't be ready for start of the pre season training and lets not forget it was serious injury and we shouldn't rush back. Batth hasn't sign yet. Another centre back signing is a must

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Our defence was good last season, our attack was poor. Added to that, it will start off even worse when Dolan leaves.

Yes we need to bring 2 or 3 attacking players so lets who we bring in

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Signing Brittain on an extended deal would obviously be good deal. 

very good deal. Big Brittain fan

[Forever Blue]

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ive always said (obviously based on the assumption that Batth stays) that a centre back should be well down the priority list.

Just because they told us that they wanted someone doesnt mean I have to see it as the same priority as them.

If Batth goes then obviously it becomes more of a priority. But we still need to spend the majority of our low resources on overhauling the attacking areas.

He won player of the season in his first season, and much of that was alongside Carter. He was also really good the season just gone and was an ever present in us I think getting our most clean sheets since these terrible owners darkened our doors. That poor season in between has proven to be the exception.

A more experienced partner does seem to take his game to a higher level, but he is a good Championship centre back either way. I also dont remember a prolonged period of him playing alongside Wharton, so any idea of Wharton being someone who made him look competent is unfair.

Youve never liked Hyam and youve never liked Tronstad and both were signed by Broughton who was another person who you used as a deflection to pile the blame on and away from Venkys. 

They want a LCB. They’ve only got 1 and nobody knows when/if he’ll be back up to scratch to the play in the Championship. 
 

So signing a LCB is clearly going to be a priority for a club that wants to sign a LCB.  He may even be our best CB. Who knows, certainly not you or I. 

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

They want a LCB. They’ve only got 1 and nobody knows when/if he’ll be back up to scratch to the play in the Championship. 
 

So signing a LCB is clearly going to be a priority for a club that wants to sign a LCB.  He may even be our best CB. Who knows, certainly not you or I. 

I know they want one. You said that before, and Gestede has already said it so I already knew. 

This player will seemingly cost what will likely be a decent chunk of any budget considering the fee he joined Montpellier for. I question whether that would be a wise use of those resources.

You say we only have 1 but that would be one more than we had last season when we had an impressive defensive record. Batth was very comfortable on that side, I dont think there is as much of a pressing need to have a left footed centre back in a back 4. Of course, if Batth doesnt sign a contract then centre back becomes more of a priority. But most of whatever is available on fees should be used in the attacking areas as that was our weakness and we are about to lose Dolan to compound that.

I didnt comment on the quality of the player.

[Forever Blue]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I know they want one. You said that before, and Gestede has already said it so I already knew. 

This player will seemingly cost what will likely be a decent chunk of any budget considering the fee he joined Montpellier for. I question whether that would be a wise use of those resources.

You say we only have 1 but that would be one more than we had last season when we had an impressive defensive record. Batth was very comfortable on that side, I dont think there is as much of a pressing need to have a left footed centre back in a back 4. Of course, if Batth doesnt sign a contract then centre back becomes more of a priority. But most of whatever is available on fees should be used in the attacking areas as that was our weakness and we are about to lose Dolan to compound that.

I didnt comment on the quality of the player.

Maybe they can get the attacking players they want plus the LCB. Unless you know different?

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Maybe they can get the attacking players they want plus the LCB. Unless you know different?

Well they haven't spent any money for nearly 2 years and literally drove off one of the best managers in the league because they refused to back him - so I'd suggest it's unlikely. 

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Maybe they can get the attacking players they want plus the LCB. Unless you know different?

I dont and you seem to just be being pedantic.

On the face of it, spending what potentially would be a decent chunk of our budget on a centre back in my opinion would be questionable when the attack needs a total overhaul.

Based on previous windows, I wont be holding my breath that we get everything we need in the market.

[Forever Blue]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

Well they haven't spent any money for nearly 2 years and literally drove off one of the best managers in the league because they refused to back him - so I'd suggest it's unlikely. 

They don’t have to spend much money to sign people on loan or on frees. We’ll certainly sign some attackers. The question will be if they’re any good. 

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Well they haven't spent any money for nearly 2 years and literally drove off one of the best managers in the league because they refused to back him - so I'd suggest it's unlikely. 

Did we not spend last summer on Gueye, Cantwell, Ohashi and Toth, or in January on Kargbo? 

[roversfan99]

Around £3m having received over £30m. Very kind.

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont and you seem to just be being pedantic.

On the face of it, spending what potentially would be a decent chunk of our budget on a centre back in my opinion would be questionable when the attack needs a total overhaul.

Based on previous windows, I wont be holding my breath that we get everything we need in the market.

That’s hilarious considering the tedious number of arguments we all have to sit thru between you and Chaddy, which are the dictionary definition of point scoring and pedantry.
 

Back to the football and we have no idea what this CB will cost and how it impacts the rest of the budget. You’re just guessing. 
 

 

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont and you seem to just be being pedantic.

On the face of it, spending what potentially would be a decent chunk of our budget on a centre back in my opinion would be questionable when the attack needs a total overhaul.

Based on previous windows, I wont be holding my breath that we get everything we need in the market.

Maybe this player has relegation release clause in his contract? 

Wharton isn't fit for the start of pre season so that's leave us 2 centre backs in the squad so surely you accept we need centre back signings. 

Maybe we got other targets line up who means we can afford to buy this centre back..

What do we actually need in terms of positions wise signings? 

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Around £3m having received over £30m. Very kind.

Around 4.5m 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, Forever Blue said:

That’s hilarious considering the tedious number of arguments we all have to sit thru between you and Chaddy, which are the dictionary definition of point scoring and pedantry.
 

Back to the football and we have no idea what this CB will cost and how it impacts the rest of the budget. You’re just guessing. 
 

 

We all are. I was just offering an opinion that I would question if we are spending a decent proportion of our budget on a centre back considering the disparity between the quality of our attack and defence.

[Forever Blue]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

We all are. I was just offering an opinion that I would question if we are spending a decent proportion of our budget on a centre back considering the disparity between the quality of our attack and defence.

you’re also discounting the fact Batth is a Eustace signing and VI plays a different way. VI is a lot less rigid in his set up and doesn’t sit as deep. Batth may not be quite as effective in a team where the CBs are expected to be a bit more dynamic and cover a bit more ground. 

Who knows, Batth and Hyam may not start the season as first choice CB’s. It may well be Carter and someone new.

All food for thought. New manager, new ideas, new tactics, new players. It’s not as simple as saying the defence is good, attack bad!

[roversfan99]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Around 4.5m 

Thanks Suhail, if you say so.

If Batth stays, an extra body would be somewhat understandable 

If Batth goes, it becomes more of a priority and essential that we at least bring someone in, but the majority of the budget should IMO still go on the attack. It is really lacking quality across the forward line and Dolan leaving makes it worse.

Lets be honest. Do we really have any faith that we will strengthen sufficiently in this window?

[roversfan99]

Just now, Forever Blue said:

you’re also discounting the fact Batth is a Eustace signing and VI plays a different way. VI is a lot less rigid in his set up and doesn’t sit as deep. Batth may not be quite as effective in a team where the CBs are expected to be a bit more dynamic and cover a bit more ground. 

Who knows, Batth and Hyam may not start the season as first choice CB’s. It may well be Carter and someone new.

All food for thought. New manager, new ideas, new tactics, new players. It’s not as simple as saying the defence is good, attack bad!

Of course he might want new ideas, but he clearly rates Batth enough to want him to stay and he continued to impress under him last season.

Im not saying that we shouldnt sign a defender, especially if he wants something new which might reduce Batth's gametime even if he does stay. But I think our attack is very poor and needs an overhaul so the majority of our funds just in my opinion should go there. Regardless of style, there isnt much quality to work with. 

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Of course he might want new ideas, but he clearly rates Batth enough to want him to stay and he continued to impress under him last season.

Im not saying that we shouldnt sign a defender, especially if he wants something new which might reduce Batth's gametime even if he does stay. But I think our attack is very poor and needs an overhaul so the majority of our funds just in my opinion should go there. Regardless of style, there isnt much quality to work with. 

And they’ve said they’ll sign attackers. So we’ll wait and see how far the budget stretches. Ohashi has shown there are bargains out there and he may be even better next season. Kargbo may be a revelation next season. A quality right winger and another striker and we could have a quick, effective strike force. 

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Thanks Suhail, if you say so.

Childish pathetic response from yourself. Better than shit or used to be. 

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If Batth stays, an extra body would be somewhat understandable 

If Batth goes, it becomes more of a priority and essential that we at least bring someone in, but the majority of the budget should IMO still go on the attack. It is really lacking quality across the forward line and Dolan leaving makes it worse.

We need 5 centre backs in the squad. 

Yes we need 2 or 3 signings in forward areas

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Lets be honest. Do we really have any faith that we will strengthen sufficiently in this window?

Time for such questions is after the window not now. 

[Tomphil2]

20 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

you’re also discounting the fact Batth is a Eustace signing and VI plays a different way. VI is a lot less rigid in his set up and doesn’t sit as deep. Batth may not be quite as effective in a team where the CBs are expected to be a bit more dynamic and cover a bit more ground. 

Who knows, Batth and Hyam may not start the season as first choice CB’s. It may well be Carter and someone new.

All food for thought. New manager, new ideas, new tactics, new players. It’s not as simple as saying the defence is good, attack bad!

You might well be right there and if Ismael could chose he'd probably want a bit more pace in that position but as it stands the squad without Batth would be significantly weaker.

[47er]

35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Time for such questions is after the window not now. 

When its too late (as usual)!!

[JCRovers]

This is Rovers' transfer history under Venky's tenure (from November 2010 to present):

Source: Transfermarkt

Winter transfer, season 2010/11:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signing: Formica)

Season 11/12 (relegated from PL):

Net income: 20 million Euros (biggest signing: Dann, biggest sales: Jones, Samba, Kalinic)

Season 12/13:

Net expenditure: 6 million Euros (biggest signing: Rhodes, biggest sale: Nzonzi)

Season 13/14:

Net income: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Marshall, biggest sale: Olsson)

Season 14/15:

Net expenditure: 3 miilion Euros (biggest signing: Duffy)

Season 15/16: 

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest sales: Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney)

Season 16/17 (relegated from Championship):

Net income: 13 million Euros (biggest sales: Hanley, Duffy, Marshall)

Season 17/18 (promoted from League One):

Net expenditure: 1 million Euro (biggest signing: Dack)

Season 18/19:

Net expenditure: 10 million Euros (biggest signings: Brereton Diaz, Armstrong)

Season 19/20:

Net expenditure: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Gallagher, biggest sale: Raya)

Season 20/21:

Net expenditure: 1,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Pickering, Kaminski)

Season 21/22:

Net income: 16 million Euros (biggest sale: Armstrong)

Season 22/23:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Szmodics, Hyam, Brittain)

Season 23/24:

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest signing: Wahlstedt, biggest sale: Wharton)

Season 24/25:

Net income: 8,6 million Euros (biggest signing: Gueye, biggest sale: Szmodics)

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Total net income from 2010-2025: 76,2 million Euros

Club made a loss on the following players: Gallagher, Rothwell, Brereton Diaz, Formica, Dann, King, Best

Club made a 'considerable' profit on the following players: Szmodics, Wharton, Armstrong, Jones, Samba, Nzonzi, Gestede, Cairney, Hanley, Duffy, Raya

Note that the club has struck gold on a couple of occasions with academy products / youth intake in Wharton, Raya, Jones and Hanley. Players that cost next to nothing to bring in / develop yet generated relatively large fees. So you barely got a handful of players who the club has made a profit on by acting in the market over the course of 14,5 years. 

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Board has been on record this year saying that player sales won't affect the summer's transfer budget so I wouldn't trust us to spend anything unless it involves players going the other way. 

 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did we not spend last summer on Gueye, Cantwell, Ohashi and Toth, or in January on Kargbo? 

Wahlstedt covered the cost of Toth, Gallagher covered the cost of Gueye and Ohashi. 

So what, we spent £1.5m on Cantwell and Kargbo after bringing in over £30m? 

Edited 21 hours ago by Exiled_Rover

[Upside Down]

12 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

This is Rovers' transfer history under Venky's tenure (from November 2010 to present):

Source: Transfermarkt

Winter transfer, season 2010/11:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signing: Formica)

Season 11/12 (relegated from PL):

Net income: 20 million Euros (biggest signing: Dann, biggest sales: Jones, Samba, Kalinic)

Season 12/13:

Net expenditure: 6 million Euros (biggest signing: Rhodes, biggest sale: Nzonzi)

Season 13/14:

Net income: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Marshall, biggest sale: Olsson)

Season 14/15:

Net expenditure: 3 miilion Euros (biggest signing: Duffy)

Season 15/16: 

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest sales: Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney)

Season 16/17 (relegated from Championship):

Net income: 13 million Euros (biggest sales: Hanley, Duffy, Marshall)

Season 17/18 (promoted from League One):

Net expenditure: 1 million Euro (biggest signing: Dack)

Season 18/19:

Net expenditure: 10 million Euros (biggest signings: Brereton Diaz, Armstrong)

Season 19/20:

Net expenditure: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Gallagher, biggest sale: Raya)

Season 20/21:

Net expenditure: 1,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Pickering, Kaminski)

Season 21/22:

Net income: 16 million Euros (biggest sale: Armstrong)

Season 22/23:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Szmodics, Hyam, Brittain)

Season 23/24:

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest signing: Wahlstedt, biggest sale: Wharton)

Season 24/25:

Net income: 8,6 million Euros (biggest signing: Gueye, biggest sale: Szmodics)

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Total net income from 2010-2025: 76,2 million Euros

Club made a loss on the following players: Gallagher, Rothwell, Brereton Diaz, Formica, Dann, King, Best

Club made a 'considerable' profit on the following players: Szmodics, Wharton, Armstrong, Jones, Samba, Nzonzi, Gestede, Cairney, Hanley, Duffy, Raya

Note that the club has struck gold on a couple of occasions with academy products / youth intake in Wharton, Raya, Jones and Hanley. Players that cost next to nothing to bring in / develop yet generated relatively large fees. So you barely got a handful of players who the club has made a profit on by acting in the market over the course of 14,5 years. 

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Board has been on record this year saying that player sales won't affect the summer's transfer budget so I wouldn't trust us to spend anything unless it involves players going the other way. 

 

Excellent work.

This needs adding to the timeline, anyone who's got it and has the time?

Shows the reality of what's happening here.