2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[JHRover]

29 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who says they want his wages off the books? 

Their actions over the last 4-5 years. Haven't you noticed a pattern yet?

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Their actions over the last 4-5 years. Haven't you noticed a pattern yet?

What big wages have we got rid off in the pattern you say since 2021?  

Edited 5 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Quotes from people who spoke to him outside the ground before/after the Accy Stanley match

Chances of the club suddenly offering him a deal during the dormant summer months whilst the player is away on holiday? Slim I'd wager.

Which people? 

What about about Ismael's post Stanley games? No comment or just ignored them? 

[JHRover]

31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ismael post Stanley game said Travis and Tronstad both offered new contract by Rovers

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25310915.blackburn-rovers-boss-hint-travis-tronstad-contracts/

Travis last comment on contract was March

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25026507.travis-contract-latest-blackburn-landscape-new-deals/

So you seriously believe that between March and early July, most of which time the club was effectively in lockdown and all the players and staff were off on holiday, and the Venky stooge was in India getting his instructions, that he's initiated contract talks and then actually made a serious offer?

Have you been following events at the club recently?

Ismael will be getting strung along like the rest of us - told a tale by those above him to keep him quiet/happy/blaming the previous regime. He's new to all this and probably thinks he's working for a genuine honest group of people. He will learn by January.

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So you seriously believe that between March and early July, most of which time the club was effectively in lockdown and all the players and staff were off on holiday, and the Venky stooge was in India getting his instructions, that he's initiated contract talks and then actually made a serious offer?

Have you been following events at the club recently?

Ismael will be getting strung along like the rest of us - told a tale by those above him to keep him quiet/happy/blaming the previous regime. He's new to all this and probably thinks he's working for a genuine honest group of people. He will learn by January.

Cos that's your narrative doesn't JH? 

So Ismael is lying to the fans? He didn't lie about Brittain situation did he? Was straight talking, open and honest, telling the fans the truth? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So you seriously believe that between March and early July, most of which time the club was effectively in lockdown and all the players and staff were off on holiday, and the Venky stooge was in India getting his instructions, that he's initiated contract talks and then actually made a serious offer?

Have you been following events at the club recently?

Ismael will be getting strung along like the rest of us - told a tale by those above him to keep him quiet/happy/blaming the previous regime. He's new to all this and probably thinks he's working for a genuine honest group of people. He will learn by January.

Now your changing your wording to ‘serious offer’ that’s a different conversation altogether 

You have went from no offer in one response to serious offer in the next which is it?

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Now your changing your wording to ‘serious offer’ that’s a different conversation altogether 

You have went from no offer in one response to serious offer in the next which is it?

And for the record I think the club and venkys are probably the third worst run club in the uk couldn’t see them far enough away from rovers but when debating things let’s not make stuff up without any sort of evidence. Doesn’t really do anything for anybody on a message board

[JHRover]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Which people? 

What about about Ismael's post Stanley games? No comment or just ignored them? 

There were people who posted on here that they had heard him say it / asked him about it outside the ground

You're doing exactly what the owners and their stooges want - believing every word that they instruct/give Ismael to spread.

This is part of the problem - fans blindly trusting everything that gets said without sitting back for a few minutes and thinking about the implausibility of it. That doesn't make Ismael a liar, just that he will be getting told a version of events by people he is working for. 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by JHRover

[JHRover]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Now your changing your wording to ‘serious offer’ that’s a different conversation altogether 

You have went from no offer in one response to serious offer in the next which is it?

Doesn't really matter - either way not a serious attempt to keep him and end result is the same

[JHRover]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

And for the record I think the club and venkys are probably the third worst run club in the uk couldn’t see them far enough away from rovers but when debating things let’s not make stuff up without any sort of evidence. Doesn’t really do anything for anybody on a message board

Who has evidence of anything?

Ismael says one thing. Travis, Brittain and Tronstad said another. 

They refused to even entertain the prospect of new contracts in February, to the point of forcing Eustace out rather than keep him, yet by May/June have done it? Nah

I think it is foolish to assume the bloke new to the club and being given his information by Pasha/Gestede is the correct version. 

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

There were people who posted on here that they had heard him say it / asked him about it outside the ground

Which was? 

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You're doing exactly what the owners and their stooges want - believing every word that they instruct/give Ismael to spread.

This is part of the problem - fans blindly trusting everything that gets said without sitting back for a few minutes and thinking about the implausibility of it. That doesn't make Ismael a liar, just that he will be getting told a version of events by people he is working for. 

Was Ismael straight open and honest about the Brittain Situation and what would the week after if still here? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Doesn't really matter - either way not a serious attempt to keep him and end result is the same

Well it doesn’t matter in the context of my reply 

you said he hasn’t been offered anything 

I’m saying he has

whether he’s been offered a reasonable contract I’d likely agree and say no

but don’t change the goalposts mid debate 

[JHRover]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Which was? 

Was Ismael straight open and honest about the Brittain Situation and what would the week after if still here? 

I don't understand either of your questions but think I've said enough on the subject. 

If you want to believe the narrative being spread by club employees despite plenty of reasons to believe otherwise then go ahead, there's no evidence either way but we all know how this ends.

[JHRover]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Well it doesn’t matter in the context of my reply 

you said he hasn’t been offered anything 

I’m saying he has

whether he’s been offered a reasonable contract I’d likely agree and say no

but don’t change the goalposts mid debate 

Fundamentally this comes down to whether you believe the club has made a serious effort to keep any of these players. 

I don't. 

The reason for my original post was concern that people are starting to fall for a narrative that they have been made appropriate offers but have declined them. I don't believe for one second that they have and the club is 100% to blame for this situation in my opinion, not any of the players.

I get angry and concerned when I see people suggesting that the players are somehow the issue in this situation.

How many times must it happen for people to realise the club is the problem?

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, JHRover said:

Fundamentally this comes down to whether you believe the club has made a serious effort to keep any of these players. 

I don't. 

The reason for my original post was concern that people are starting to fall for a narrative that they have been made appropriate offers but have declined them. I don't believe for one second that they have and the club is 100% to blame for this situation in my opinion, not any of the players.

I get angry and concerned when I see people suggesting that the players are somehow the issue in this situation.

How many times must it happen for people to realise the club is the problem?

Wasn’t the point in question I agree with all of the above

but it’s not what you said - you said no offer 

[bigbrandjohn]

500 up👏. A couple of wickets with more promised this week. 

All this talk of 1 year contract extensions and then Stansfield gets a seven year contract. 

This is why we need American owners. 

 

https://huddleup.substack.com/p/the-billionaire-tax-trick-fueling?utm_source=substack&publication_id=17922&post_id=170177694&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=cakiq&triedRedirect=true

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I don't understand either of your questions but think I've said enough on the subject. 

If you want to believe the narrative being spread by club employees despite plenty of reasons to believe otherwise then go ahead, there's no evidence either way but we all know how this ends.

What did Travis say outside to fans about a contract offer? 

Was Ismael straight to the point, open and honest about the Brittain Situation, post Stanley game and what would the week after if still here which was part of our first team squad for the Everton? 

club employees like Ismael you mean? 

 

[JHRover]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

What did Travis say outside to fans about a contract offer? 

Was Ismael straight to the point, open and honest about the Brittain Situation, post Stanley game and what would the week after if still here which was part of our first team squad for the Everton? 

club employees like Ismael you mean? 

 

I can't remember the exact wording but something along the lines of 

"When are you signing a new contract?"

"When I get offered one"

I don't know whether Ismael was honest or straight to the point. How do you know? It's your opinion. 

Yes club employees will be told a version of events by Venky stooge in charge. Give it time and he will learn the hard way that what Venky stooges say and the reality are often some way apart.

[roverandout]

37 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

And for the record I think the club and venkys are probably the third worst run club in the uk couldn’t see them far enough away from rovers but when debating things let’s not make stuff up without any sort of evidence. Doesn’t really do anything for anybody on a message board

England not uk

[glen9mullan]

Prediction of exits 

Buckley, Travis, Cantwell, Pears and Leonard , before window shuts !!

[Tomphil2]

Whether they were offered contracts or not the outcome is the same, they left or will leave so there are deep issues involved obviously.

For what it's worth the Nyambie, Lenihen, BBD scenario's played out the same over a similar period and they all left as well.

We heard the same stuff they were offered great deals - at the 11th hour once their ahents had something else lined up.

Same pattern at play, same narrative created of blame all the players, same guy in the shadows being unaccountable yet letting the same things happen over and over.

Some might say him and his bosses are the real problem.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Prediction of exits 

Buckley, Travis, Cantwell, Pears and Leonard , before window shuts !!

Apart from Travis I wouldn't lose any sleep about any of the others.

In fact I think we'd be doing well to get shut of them.

[glen9mullan]

12 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Whether they were offered contracts or not the outcome is the same, they left or will leave so there are deep issues involved obviously.

For what it's worth the Nyambie, Lenihen, BBD scenario's played out the same over a similar period and they all left as well.

We heard the same stuff they were offered great deals - at the 11th hour once their ahents had something else lined up.

Same pattern at play, same narrative created of blame all the players, same guy in the shadows being unaccountable yet letting the same things happen over and over.

Some might say him and his bosses are the real problem.

Speaking to AO , the suggestion was, their time was up and a new deal was not what the club wanted.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Speaking to AO , the suggestion was, their time was up and a new deal was not what the club wanted.

Which ones?

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Speaking to AO , the suggestion was, their time was up and a new deal was not what the club wanted.

Travis and Tronstad?