January Transfer Needs

[wilsdenrover]

Just now, KentExile said:

Purley financial, he is getting paid an average Championship wage, Rovers don't want to pay that much any more

The more cynical would also suggest an agent’s fee in regard to signing his replacement will be higher than an agent’s fee for facilitating the renewal of his contract. 

[islander200]

We should be spending a bit of money on a centre back that Is better than any of our defenders. 

But bringing back O'Riordan will leave us with Miller, Pratt,McLoughlin, Wharton and Carter 6 centre backs. Doesn't feel like they will look to bring in another defender which will be a mistake. Unless O'Riordan is being brought back for us to have a look at him and if we do sign an experienced centre back will then be sent back to Doncaster for the rest of the season. Or if Carter or Wharton are expected to be out longer term. I just don't see them having 7 centre halves registered in the squad and be harsh now to leave Pratt out in favour of O'Riordan 

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, islander200 said:

We should be spending a bit of money on a centre back that Is better than any of our defenders. 

But bringing back O'Riordan will leave us with Miller, Pratt,McLoughlin, Wharton and Carter 6 centre backs. Doesn't feel like they will look to bring in another defender which will be a mistake. Unless O'Riordan is being brought back for us to have a look at him and if we do sign an experienced centre back will then be sent back to Doncaster for the rest of the season. Or if Carter or Wharton are expected to be out longer term. I just don't see them having 7 centre halves registered in the squad and be harsh now to leave Pratt out in favour of O'Riordan 

They definitely wont sign more than 1, if even they do that.

But whats the point in naming Carter? Its clear that he cant even be relied on as a squad player.

And Wharton isnt back until February and although his injuries tend to be more serious rather than continious muscle injuries, he cant be relied upon.

Normally 3 from 6 or 7 would be fine, even if the quality there which it isnt IMO. But when 2 of them are Wharton and Carter, its not enough. They are not serious options.

It would become 3 from 2 new signings, O'Riordan who is far from proven, Pratt who has only just emerged, and McLoughlin and Miller who are nothing special.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont fail to understand. Just because I dont agree with you, it doesnt mean that I just have no understanding of the rules.

For me, its not just about listing players which you repeatedly do. If there are 3 positions up for grabs, as far as you are concerned, if you can name 6 or more players who can play those positions, whether they are good enough, whether theyve proven themselves yet, whether they are constantly injured, it doesnt seem to matter to you. I am bothered about quality. I dont think we have enough. And how is signing first team quality players "wasting money?"

We have so many players in the squad who are nowhere near the standard. Gueye, De Neve, Henriksson, Tavares, Kargbo. Conversations can be had, give them time unlike the disgraceful way we treated Sigurdsson. Say theres a big chance that you wont be registered if you stay, things havent worked out, you arent part of the plans going forward. Ribeiro I think a similar conversation because he no longer has a place in the formation. With Carter, hes a waste of a space to be honest. 

This wont happen by the way, we will end the window still full of crap in the squad. But it needs to happen.

I'm not just listing players as you suggested but the reality of what the situation actually is. 

I asked you a very simple question of, so do we not register Carter or Wharton then? no response again, just ignored again. Do we let Carter go then if he such a waste of space as you suggest? 

We had the option to not play these injured players like Carter and Wharton, get rid if you want. I would be tempted to get rid of Carter down to injury record. I pleased O'Riordan has been recalled and for one we need 1 more centre back signing. That's enough for me, Plus add Miller, Litherland and Atcheson to that. 

Yes Rovers have decisions to make over some players and given the comments from Ismael on this, its appears some will leave and that will allow us to sign 3 or 4 players. 

I would sell Gueye, Ribeiro, De Neve and Tyjon go in this window. Would keep Pickering as left wing back option with Hedges. On Henriksson and Tavares, I wouldn't write them off at this stage. We need to find what role Tavares is going to play and Henriksson I would give him the rest of the season. 

 

[DE.]

28 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Purley financial, he is getting paid an average Championship wage, Rovers don't want to pay that much any more.

Don't worry, a random from Belgium will be on his way in a cut price deal, 50/50 he will be the midfield equivalent of an Alebiosu or a De Neve

We all know where this ends, too. If we aren't willing to pay decent Championship wages we will soon not be playing in the Championship anymore. Those in charge may be arrogant enough to believe they have the secret to success that bypasses the need to pay proper wages, but they will find they are wrong. We've already bombed from playoff contenders to relegation scrappers within half a season - it won't be long before they do enough damage to relegate us. Could still happen this season, although I think we may be saved by Oxford and Portsmouth (Sheff Weds are obv already goners). 

[neophox]

We need to sign a striker that's for sure... defensively we are quite good and have a feeling O'Riordan will be a superb Defender for us.

[M_B]

51 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

For the life of me I can't understand why we refuse to resign Tronstad. He's clearly the glue in midfield and all the players and Ismael love him, and he actively wants to stay. I can't even imagine his wage demands are outlandish, especially if the alleged move home to Scandi land is real.

We save money by not having to replace him too.

He is top priority in Jan.

He seems happy enough, maybe he'll change his mind, I hope he does.

If him and his family want to move nearer home though, then maybe let's just respect his wishes,there doesn't always have to be someone at fault. 

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, M_B said:

He seems happy enough, maybe he'll change his mind, I hope he does.

If him and his family want to move nearer home though, then maybe let's just respect his wishes,there doesn't always have to be someone at fault. 

Apparently he has never stated that

 

8 hours ago, KentExile said:

This made interesting listening, Tronstad apparently has denied stating he wants to move back to Scandinavia.  It should start playing when he is the topic of conversation

 

 

[M_B]

Just now, KentExile said:

Apparently he has never stated that

 

 

He has according to Andy Bayes on radio Lancs the other night. 

[roversfan99]

41 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I'm not just listing players as you suggested but the reality of what the situation actually is. 

I asked you a very simple question of, so do we not register Carter or Wharton then? no response again, just ignored again. Do we let Carter go then if he such a waste of space as you suggest? 

We had the option to not play these injured players like Carter and Wharton, get rid if you want. I would be tempted to get rid of Carter down to injury record. I pleased O'Riordan has been recalled and for one we need 1 more centre back signing. That's enough for me, Plus add Miller, Litherland and Atcheson to that. 

Yes Rovers have decisions to make over some players and given the comments from Ismael on this, its appears some will leave and that will allow us to sign 3 or 4 players. 

I would sell Gueye, Ribeiro, De Neve and Tyjon go in this window. Would keep Pickering as left wing back option with Hedges. On Henriksson and Tavares, I wouldn't write them off at this stage. We need to find what role Tavares is going to play and Henriksson I would give him the rest of the season. 

 

Maybe 1 would be enough. But you keep saying thats enough in terms of numbers in a list. Is there enough quality in those options? I would suggest not but we clearly have different standards on quality needed.

Ive listed loads of players that I would happily ship out. I named 6 players currently registered that are of no use to us. We IMO need 2 centre backs, a right wing back and 2 strikers minimum, so in theory, we wouldnt need to deregister Carter if the window went as planned. But if it came to it, then yes, deregister him because hes no use if he cant even get through a week of training. You say potentially sell him, who on earth is buying him with that injury record? Wharton is a bit different, he at least at times can sustain himself for a run of games so I would certainly register him.

Why are you happy to write off De Neve 6 months in but not Tavares or Henriksson?