Rovers's January transfer needs

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

How can I possibly answer that though. Under this regime, probably none, maybe at a push one or two. But we should try to fix as many of those glaring holes as we possibly can.

Lets hope that Henriksson, De Neve, Tavares etc are actually not absolutely terrible but in fact turn out to be brilliant for us.

Dont hold your breath on that though.

feck me, it was very simple question and yet you won't answer. Maybe you think about your actions next time you throw your toys out of pram when complaining about others not answering questions, 

3 or 4 new signings is realistic with 2 or 3 leaving, so centre back signing, right wing back signing, striker signing and long term Tronstad's replacement with players like Gueye and Pickering leaving. Neither starting or rated by Ismael too much

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Cant wait for these new Players you speak of chaddy...the futures so bright we gotta wear shades.

[RevidgeBlue]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

3 or 4 new signings is realistic with 2 or 3 leaving, so centre back signing, right wing back signing, striker signing and long term Tronstad's replacement with players like Gueye and Pickering leaving. Neither starting or rated by Ismael too much

So essentially then, one addition to what we have already.

You think that will make a difference?

[KentExile]

53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

feck me, it was very simple question and yet you won't answer. Maybe you think about your actions next time you throw your toys out of pram when complaining about others not answering questions, 

3 or 4 new signings is realistic with 2 or 3 leaving, so centre back signing, right wing back signing, striker signing and long term Tronstad's replacement with players like Gueye and Pickering leaving. Neither starting or rated by Ismael too much

 

If Gueye & Pickering are the ones to leave, then that leaves you with a 27 man squad

 

                                Toth

                 Miller  Wharton  McLoughlin

Alebiosu  Baradji  Tronstad  Cantwell  Hedges

                   Gudjohnsen  Ohashi

 

                               Pears

               O'Riordan  NEW  Pratt

NEW  Henriksen  NEW  Morishita  De Neve

                        NEW     Kargbo

 

Carter

Ribeiro

Forshaw

Tavares

TGH

 

Montgomery, Michalski, Atcheson, Litherland, Tyjon & Goddard do not need to be included due to their age, but Pratt does take up a squad space

Personally as a winger doesn't fit into the current system, Kargbo would also be sold if possible, which frees up one more slot, but as he is not likely to be fit until January, this seems unlikely, so think he will be utilised as forth choice striker off the bench

If they do not being back O'Riordan, then they need another centre back too

Given Caters injury history, I think he will have to stay in January due to a lack of takers either on loan, or permanent

I assume Garrett will not be in the first team squad this season (if he was, then he also takes up a space), and will spend the second half of the season regaining fitness on loan, or in the U21s

I have a sneaking feeling that TGH will end up back at Birmingham as a squad player during January, and they will bring in  a centre back, right wing back, and a striker in the Ohashi mould full of work rate and running, but not necessarily a goal threat, someone like Mark Harris from Oxford who is out of contract at the end of the season and therefore cheap, and on an "affordable wage". 

Given the above, the heir to Tronstad would have to wait until the squad is further culled in the summer

 

Edit - not saying this is what we need, but think this is what we will get, looking at 25 man squad etc

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So essentially then, one addition to what we have already.

You think that will make a difference?

Eh? Gueye barely plays and Pickering not in favour. 

A right wing back signing would back up Alebiosu. 

A centre back signing a starter

A striker to.either start or bring off the bench

A Tronstad replacement looking towards next season

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

If Gueye & Pickering are the ones to leave, then that leaves you with a 26 man squad

 

                                Toth

                 Miller  Wharton  McLoughlin

Alebiosu  Baradji  Tronstad  Cantwell  Hedges

                   Gudjohnsen  Ohashi

 

                               Pears

               O'Riordan  NEW  Pratt

NEW  Henriksen  Forshaw  Morishta  De Neve

                        NEW     Kargbo

 

Carter

Ribeiro

Tavares

TGH

 

Montgomery, Michalski, Atcheson, Litherland, Tyjon & Goddard do not need to be included due to their age, but Pratt does take up a squad space

Personally as a winger doesn't fit into the current system, Kargbo would also be sold if possible, which frees up one more slot, but as he is not likely to be fit until January, this seems unlikely, so think he will be utilised as forth choice striker off the bench

I assume Garrett will not be in the first team squad this season (if he was, then he also takes up a space), and will spend the second half of the season regaining fitness on loan, or in the U21s

I have a sneaking feeling that TGH will end up back at Birmingham as a squad player during January, and they will bring in  a centre back, right wing back, and a striker in the Ohashi mould full of work rate and running, but not necessarily a goal threat, someone like Mark Harris from Oxford who is out of contract at the end of the season and therefore cheap, and on an "affordable wage"

 

Edit - not saying this is what we need, but think this is what we will get, looking at 25 man squad etc

Will O'Riordan be recalled? Will Carter stay? Big questions there.

Like Harris suggestion tbh. 

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Will O'Riordan be recalled? Will Carter stay? Big questions there.

Like Harris suggestion tbh. 

Carter will stay, as he will not be able to find a buyer due to injury history

If O'Riordan is not recalled, then another centre back is needed as well as the one that's already being brought in

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

13 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Carter will stay, as he will not be able to find a buyer due to injury history

If O'Riordan is not recalled, then another centre back is needed as well as the one that's already being brought in

So if Carter stay and we buy another that's 6 players for 3 roles? How is that not enough plus Ribeiro. 

Carter, Miller. New signing, Pratt, Wharton, McLoughlin 

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So if Carter stay and we buy another that's 6 players for 3 roles? How is that not enough plus Ribeiro. 

Carter, Miller. New signing, Pratt, Wharton, McLoughlin 

In numbers, it is enough, but when we factor in the injury records of Carter & Wharton, we need another. 

Assuming they both (Carter & Wharton) come back from injury in the New Year without their returns being delayed, it would be almost unbelievable to think that neither would be injured for at least a month or 2 later in the season, purely based on past history

Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

In numbers, it is enough, but when we factor in the injury records of Carter & Wharton, we need another

We cant keep stockpiling players. 6 is enough. Either you keep Carter and leave O'Riordan on loan, or bring O'Riordan back and either not buy one or buy one and sell/loan Carter out. 

[RevidgeBlue]

27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Eh? Gueye barely plays and Pickering not in favour. 

A right wing back signing would back up Alebiosu. 

A centre back signing a starter

A striker to.either start or bring off the bench

A Tronstad replacement looking towards next season

In terms of bare additions, it's one extra body.

Whether anyone brought in in January will make a difference or Ismael will like them once he gets them here, remains to be seen.

Most of the players brought in in summer have had a negative impact imo.

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We cant keep stockpiling players. 6 is enough. Either you keep Carter and leave O'Riordan on loan, or bring O'Riordan back and either not buy one or buy one and sell/loan Carter out. 

You can only sell/loan players if you can find buyers.  If Carter could be sold/loaned then fine, but given his struggles to stay fit, I do not feel we would find any takers. 

In that instance we are left with him here, as part of the squad, When fit, he is first choice in that right centre back role for me, but it would be madness not to insure against another likely injury

[chaddyrovers]

11 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

In terms of bare additions, it's one extra body.

Whether anyone brought in in January will make a difference or Ismael will like them once he gets them here, remains to be seen.

Most of the players brought in in summer have had a negative impact imo 

Gudjohnsen 6 goals in 15 games,is that negative impact? 

Alebiosu been outstanding 

McLoughlin, Miller, TGH, Morishita all have a positive impact for me. Morishita is getting better. 

[MarkBRFC]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gudjohnsen 6 goals in 15 games,is that negative impact? 

Alebiosu been outstanding 

McLoughlin, Miller, TGH, Morishita all have a positive impact for me. Morishita is getting better. 

He said "most" not "all" so you didn't need to bring up Gudjohnsen's 6 goals as it's clear he isn't one of the ones who have been bad.

Him & Alebiosu have been good, Mori is getting better and I think will be a good player, TGH is average.

The rest have been poor to dreadful, with the jury out on Baradji.

I can't understand anyone looking at McLoughlin and thinking he has been a good signing, bloke doesn't tackle & dreadful in the air for someone who is 6'3.

You can see why Hull shunted him out to left back to keep him well away from anything going on in the middle.

[wilsdenrover]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

And I never said it was realistic. And I know that it wont happen. Its just roughly how light I think the squad is.

I have no doubt that even come February that the squad will be nowhere near how we need it to be.

Your mistake was to say what transfers you think Rovers need in January in a thread entitled ‘Rover’s January transfer needs’

I wonder who called it that…

Edited 32 minutes ago by wilsdenrover

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

feck me, it was very simple question and yet you won't answer. Maybe you think about your actions next time you throw your toys out of pram when complaining about others not answering questions, 

3 or 4 new signings is realistic with 2 or 3 leaving, so centre back signing, right wing back signing, striker signing and long term Tronstad's replacement with players like Gueye and Pickering leaving. Neither starting or rated by Ismael too much

As fans, we cant possibly know how many we will realistically be able to get. All we can surely comment on is how many we need.

You keep mentioning a "long term Tronstad replacement" ever since Nixon came out with his propaganda piece saying thats what we supposedly want.

Alebiosu cover will be too late with AFCON.

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

 

If Gueye & Pickering are the ones to leave, then that leaves you with a 27 man squad

 

                                Toth

                 Miller  Wharton  McLoughlin

Alebiosu  Baradji  Tronstad  Cantwell  Hedges

                   Gudjohnsen  Ohashi

 

                               Pears

               O'Riordan  NEW  Pratt

NEW  Henriksen  NEW  Morishita  De Neve

                        NEW     Kargbo

 

Carter

Ribeiro

Forshaw

Tavares

TGH

 

Montgomery, Michalski, Atcheson, Litherland, Tyjon & Goddard do not need to be included due to their age, but Pratt does take up a squad space

Personally as a winger doesn't fit into the current system, Kargbo would also be sold if possible, which frees up one more slot, but as he is not likely to be fit until January, this seems unlikely, so think he will be utilised as forth choice striker off the bench

If they do not being back O'Riordan, then they need another centre back too

Given Caters injury history, I think he will have to stay in January due to a lack of takers either on loan, or permanent

I assume Garrett will not be in the first team squad this season (if he was, then he also takes up a space), and will spend the second half of the season regaining fitness on loan, or in the U21s

I have a sneaking feeling that TGH will end up back at Birmingham as a squad player during January, and they will bring in  a centre back, right wing back, and a striker in the Ohashi mould full of work rate and running, but not necessarily a goal threat, someone like Mark Harris from Oxford who is out of contract at the end of the season and therefore cheap, and on an "affordable wage". 

Given the above, the heir to Tronstad would have to wait until the squad is further culled in the summer

 

Edit - not saying this is what we need, but think this is what we will get, looking at 25 man squad etc

We would save travel costs on Harris as their fans would be queueing up to drive him here. Very poor.

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gudjohnsen 6 goals in 15 games,is that negative impact? 

Alebiosu been outstanding 

McLoughlin, Miller, TGH, Morishita all have a positive impact for me. Morishita is getting better. 

If so many players have impacted us positively, then why are we doing so badly?

46 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We cant keep stockpiling players. 6 is enough. Either you keep Carter and leave O'Riordan on loan, or bring O'Riordan back and either not buy one or buy one and sell/loan Carter out. 

You always talk about stockpiling. How many of them are first 11 quality AND are reliable in terms of fitness? None I would suggest. How about trying to improve the quality of the first 11? Novel idea I know.

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We would save travel costs on Harris as their fans would be queueing up to drive him here. Very poor.

 

To reiterate, he would not be my pick, but I can see a signing of that ilk (cheap & hard working striker to come on and save Ohashi's legs in the second half of games)

Edited 20 minutes ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

As fans, we cant possibly know how many we will realistically be able to get. All we can surely comment on is how many we need.

Just more and more BS. its was simple question to answer. You avoid it for whatever BS reasons

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You keep mentioning a "long term Tronstad replacement" ever since Nixon came out with his propaganda piece saying thats what we supposedly want.

Alebiosu cover will be too late with AFCON.

On the Tronstad replacement point with him being here he would help him settle into the club and not have rush into the team. 

Nixon's propaganda piece?.🤣🤣🤣

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We would save travel costs on Harris as their fans would be queueing up to drive him here. Very poor.

Must be true then if their fans said so. 

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If so many players have impacted us positively, then why are we doing so badly?

Cos of key players being unavailable like Toth, Cantwell and Tronstad. Cantwell is a big miss. 

I dont think Miller or McLoughlin are so bad you or others are saying.

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You always talk about stockpiling. How many of them are first 11 quality AND are reliable in terms of fitness? None I would suggest. How about trying to improve the quality of the first 11? Novel idea I know.

You always want to spend and spend all the time..pleased you arent in charge of my financial budget cos it over every single day.