v Wrexham (a) - 29/11/25, 15:00 k/o

[aletheia]

10 hours ago, Ossydave said:

especially against bloody Wrexham. 

Remember stuff about 'tinpot Bournemouth' or Brentford –no history yada yada, we are founder members of the league etc etc. Nostalgia thread alive and kicking (enjoyable it is too).

But this is where we are. Looking at others who have ambition, upward momentum, backing and functional systems in place.

[aletheia]

1 minute ago, RoversTilliDie said:

We desperately need strengthening in the January transfer window.

That always goes well.

[RoversTilliDie]

6 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

Ismael hoping to have player(s) back tomorrow. Can only assume Cantwell and maybe Toth if his injury wasn't as bad as feared.

On another note Ipswich play tonight before Tuesday's game. Has to be another advantage to them to have the extra recovery time. Still don't understand why this fixture was squeezed into the the busiest period of the season. Whether it was the first available date or not, we should have made the bastards wait for a convenient date for us,

Probably squeezed in, to suit the mighty sky television.

[RoversTilliDie]

3 hours ago, Lancaster Rover said:

The biggest issue with Gueye is that he doesn't press with any intensity, so centre halves can step in at any point giving them an overload through the middle of the pitch. I could forgive his profligacy in front of goal if he was a monster out of possession but he's woeful, I'd argue his tactical awareness out of possession is his biggest weakness.

The club that sold Gueye to us, must be rubbing there hands with glee. Somebody wants to teach him how to play football.

[RoversTilliDie]

4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You'd expect this run of away form to end at some point, let's hope it's not tomorrow.

As far as Wrexham are concerned what must it be like to follow a Club where the owners are ambitious and want to win promotion? Has no-one told them the idea is to sell all your best players and try to become "sustainable"?

When it does end, we are in desperate trouble, unless these bunch of losers, start winning games at home.

Edited 3 hours ago by RoversTilliDie
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[RoversTilliDie]

2 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said:

A Baradji, Forshaw, Montgomery midfield is enough to make me feel misty eyed about the days of Akpan and Lowe.

I can't understand, why Baradji didn't start against Q.P.R.

[RoversTilliDie]

2 hours ago, NeilInBristol said:

Yeh 

He is useless

we may as well just play with 10 

Or nine, if McLoughlin gets another yellow.

[RoversTilliDie]

1 hour ago, ... said:

Gueye a bit hard done by at the weekend by two Rangers all over him but didn't look like winning anything that came his way.

He's 6ft plus, should be winning, plenty of ariel battles.

[RevidgeBlue]

11 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

He's 6ft plus, should be winning, plenty of ariel battles.

Let's see what happens. It'll all come out in the wash.

[Ossydave]

47 minutes ago, aletheia said:

Remember stuff about 'tinpot Bournemouth' or Brentford –no history yada yada, we are founder members of the league etc etc. Nostalgia thread alive and kicking (enjoyable it is too).

But this is where we are. Looking at others who have ambition, upward momentum, backing and functional systems in place.

 

Regardless of backing, ambition or ‘upward momentum’ the point remains, it’s Wrexham we’re playing tomorrow. We’ve beat numerous teams within 1 point of them along with teams above them away from home this season. Like any game in this league it will be tough but it’s honestly no wonder the players look to escape this type of misery, which I’m pretty sure won’t be on show in Wales tomorrow. 

[Tomphil2]

2 hours ago, aletheia said:

Remember stuff about 'tinpot Bournemouth' or Brentford –no history yada yada, we are founder members of the league etc etc. Nostalgia thread alive and kicking (enjoyable it is too).

But this is where we are. Looking at others who have ambition, upward momentum, backing and functional systems in place.

 

Anybody watching the game last Friday night could see the smouldering embers of a good club and fanbase are still there.

Anybody watching on Tuesday would then realise it needs a flame thrower under it and quickly.

All those running rovers and any of the ownership watching would just be thinking damn it Gudjohnsen we need you putting them away you're earmarked to be the next big sale son.

Edited 1 hour ago by Tomphil2

[aletheia]

Misery? Reality.

And I agree, it could be tough but there is nothing to fear as such.

As for the players escaping this misery - sounds like another post from backroom staff blaming home fans for dire performances.

 

Edit. VI in charge for just over 9 months - played 15 home games and won 3. That might have something to do with misery and poor attendances.

Edited 2 hours ago by aletheia
additing to my point

[aletheia]

Perhaps tangentially but on tinpot clubs v ‘pedigree’ clubs.

I’m sure many on here have played sport of all kinds at school/local league level. And I’ve seen (from both sides) when a ‘pedigree’ club plays ‘newcomer’/’tinpot’ outfilt. So in cricket, the pedigree club playing against a ‘tinpot club’ away laughs at the crap pitch, the crap pads, the crap tea, the crap scoreboard (if there is one), the crap pavilion (no showers etc). But then the ‘tinpot’ team shows great togetherness on the pitch and roundly defeats the complacency of the ‘pedigree’ club.

Or another metaphor springs to mind (sorry, pinot). Rovers are like all those poor post 1^st World War 1 officers who can’t get a job but go round with a certain front retaining that aristocratic air but any discerning viewer can see the threadbare uniform, the whiff of decline and lack of capital.

Good luck tomorrow lads -I'll be watching. 😉

Edited 1 hour ago by aletheia

[Tugayisgod]

7 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

‘Nobody would be interested in Rovers’… but Hollywood stars would be more than willing to take bloody Wrexham through the divisions whilst transforming its infrastructure.

Wrexham was bought for around £2m and wasn't £200m in debt when they took over though.

Any potential buyer of this club won't give a toss about our history or being founder members of the league, they want to know about revenues, fan base etc, and that's where we have a problem unfortunately.

That's not to say there may be people out there willing to invest in the club 🤞. We can only hope 

We have in my opinion hope for something similar to what Ellis Short did when selling Sunderland and wipe off the debt in order to avoid going into administration.

An article from that time......

 

Since taking over from the Drumaville consortium in 2008, Short has already written off more than £100m by capitalising a large chunk of the money that was initially loaned during the early years of his reign. Throw in the money that was paid to actually buy the club in the first place, and there is every chance that his total losses during his spell as Sunderland chairman will exceed £250m. That is quite some sum.

His desire to hand over a club that is debt-free is commendable, although as previous failed takeover discussions prove, it was probably the only way for him to devise an exit strategy that did not involve placing Sunderland into the hands of the administrators.

Short could have opted for administration, thereby reducing his own liabilities and negating the need to personally pay off the banks, but that would have crippled Sunderland for years and possibly decades to come. By avoiding that course of action, the outgoing owner has lived up to his pledge to be a sympathetic custodian of an institution he professes to love.

He deserves credit for the course of action he has taken, although any praise for the manner of his withdrawal has to be tempered by an acknowledgement of why Sunderland are in this almighty mess in the first place. A decade of decline has occurred on Short’s watch.

Edited 1 hour ago by Tugayisgod

[Mattyblue]

Of course it isn’t like for like, it’s just an example of how English football is the place to be, and how potential owners are falling over themselves to get involved.

[Tomphil2]

The cashing in of all assets worth something, the future wage cap seemingly being administered, the all out effort to increase value by bringing in cheap punts all across the squad as well as own youth, the effort at being more self sufficient.

All that would normally point to a club gearing itself up to be more attractive to go on sale.

Not here though i don't think, it's more of an effort to allow these lot to hang on to it through managed decline whilst they have financial issues.

On the up side we have what various other clubs purchased by big money didn't have.

Own stadium that doesn't ever need expanding, proven academy system, a 15-20k average attendance potential in this league.

We don't have big money generating ability obviously but neither did a lot of others and it isn't something every buyer is looking for.

We have everything else even before you start on the history.

Edited 1 hour ago by Tomphil2

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

This will be very difficult game for us. 

You moan and whinge when I always predict win, now Ive predict a draw you again are. You pleasing you. 

Yes everyone wrote us off against Preston or Leiceste or Bristol City yet we won all 3. Suits this team playing away from Ewood Park

Point being, you predict pretty much every game as a win because you think thats what a fan has to do. If even you don't fancy us for a win then we really must be in trouble.

It really is a poor team when its put down like that.