Neal

Good to see some progress then, part of the 4 year master plan.

Not so sure that the players respect him or the club enough to actually fight for him if we get into a relegation battle.

I did yeah, I was just making the point that if you feel equally silly starting a promotion thread then that says it all about our manager is all. I'd reserve opinion on if you think he's terrible just yet mate...

Not really, take Rudy's goals away from last season and we'd have probably been down there. Take Rhodes goals away too and we'd have definitely been down there and theres a very realistic chance that he could leave. Perhaps start a promotion thread? If you feel equally silly doing that then that should indicate to you exactly what sort of manager we're stuck with.

Definitely a relegation battle this season. Bowyer couldn't get a team to defend no matter how long he manages, he's useless. Guy plays 2 defensive mids who can't defend, a back four who can't defend and this has been going on for 2 over seasons. Bowyer Out