Brian you confuse me some what ... on one hand you blame the Blackburn Public then on the other start apportioning blame back to the club then football in general. Surreal as it may seem though I think I know what you are trying to say in aroundabout way (does that make sense?) I don't want to offend anybody here as valid point are coming from every direction ... however I just shake my head at people who are laying the blame at the Blackburn Public. Its not that they don't want a Premiership team ... its because they can't bloody afford it and there are other contributary factors.. ie not the most affluent area, 'BIG Clubs' competing for support , the cutural element , Non city, media negative, replacement support to name a few. They might not be the most passionate as a collection numerically .. but for those that go they certainly are. Going back a couple of years ago we had a lenghthy thread on here about the way the game was going and alot of people raised there concerns, alot of which are now being proved correct. Now something I raised was the 'uniqueity' of Rovers and how we are different to probably most clubs (some you can't compare as they have never been in a similar position and probably never will be but I suspect would have the same problem) - this is something I have mentioned whenever this sort of topic raise its head - which it appears to do or has done over the last couple of seasons. I am not a follower of the 'we have been punching above our weight' comment as I feel we deserve to be where we are but I feel the club over the years have lost track of the type type of person Rovers Fans are who we are as a club - difficult for me to explain but I think most will know what I am going on about (hopefully) - and I think this has been the downfall. Paul has IMO been one of the best posters with the insight to explain the situation including as many have said our love/hate feeling now of the game in general, and on many a time he always explains in great detail. There have been warning signs about what how pricing was going to go - and like it or not - the dead horse (Lancashire Utd) that DROG has tried to flog to everybody on here is probably the most sensible idea going forward - now most people, me included may not like this idea and it probably won't happen in our lifetime but the way things are going this is how it will more than likely end up - unless something is done about it now drastically. People can blame -clubs, players , fans etc but there is alot of issues the higher echelons of the game need to answer for and need to sort out now before its too late ..if it isn't already

Done it twice roversmum think my mails get lost somewhere. I had a discussion with one of the Stewards about them before (before last Season) and not sure if I heard correctly but I am sure it was supposed to have been a topic coming up in one of the FF meetings ( then again am I not right in saying the club do actually read this MB) Seeing as us unpriveleged unworthy don't really get to hear about what goes on in these meetings, maybe a FF member can confirm whether or not it has been touched upon. Personally, I don't think it will harm the atmosphere if they go (please!!) as I don't think it can get any worse than it already is - and then people might get around to be spontaneous again.

Paul can I submit your name please for Prime Minister or at least head of the FA?

So do I - just need to see him play a couple of games - its the injuries that are the worry but he also needs the service - predatory wise he has certainly shown he had it previously- but does he still? Come on Pob ... show us yer goals.

Agree slightly Paul, but its been refreshing in parts especially with the African teams seeing how far they have adapted their football nous and going out to play/win rather than being tactical. Only thing it doesn't appear to feel like at the moment is the World Cup - don't know what it is but there is something definitely missing. As for England did you expect anything else with slaphead in charge? As for Mclaren and the future - totally agree - for some reason people seem to think there is going to be this massive resurgence - yet it will be virtually the same set up.

Why? Laughed my head off - only problem now is Milan (ha!) might not want him :ph34r:

Big Draw for Stanley Good crowd puller - possibly on TV First of many big games on the cards for Stanley

Something I mentioned quite a while ago RB. - Looks like TC reads this MB as well Personally I don't think Prof Slaphead should have been in charge the minute they said he was being replaced (never mind appointing him in the first place) however I feel the team and possibly Prof Slaphead should be given a bit of slack at the moment. They have done what they have had to do and got into the knockout stages without playing well yet not really looking like we have had any problems. The proof of the pudding will start now, we do have the players and I feel the players will rise to the occasion when required . Whether we get to the Final or not is a different matter and could well depend on Owen reagaining anything that gets him back looking like a top striker and as Alan K has stated - getting Gerrard forward. Forget Rooney, IMO Stevie G is our most influential and important player and could be the lynchpin on which Englands destiny lies in this tournament.

Wigan had a massive 2/3 page article the other week re S/T's in the Wigan reporter and from memory they are not cheaper than ours on the loyalty early bird prices (early bird for them as well as prices frozen) but can't say how they compare on the normal prices for S/T.

By all accounts he had the wool pulled over his eyes - appararently he was told he would be photographed with both shirts on - then when it came to have the photo with the Arsenal top they supposedly couldn't find it.

Bobski you better sign or else (remember he's behind you) Pie 'n peas do ya with a coooool pint on the side to wash it down with

Interesting aspect for all you footy historians When Accy dropped out of the league 44yrs ago - Oxford came into it - possibility of the reverse happening tomorrow.

Its mine too roversmum - Early Happy Blue' n White Birthday

Are you sure they didn't really mean this guy?

I'm still trying to remember bar his first game against Wolves He falls ... more like he fails No picking on him - just saying he is crap - I have been saying since his first season, this guy is not a footballer.

And stop trying to control the ball all the time with the outside of his right foot.

Thats Liverpool - not Rovers Bulgaria was tremendous and an experience as many will testify

Stayed right next to their ground for the Euro 2004 Championships - however not much there in terms on nightlife but its only 1/2 hour from Lisbon on the train (which is regular and on time) which when we where there cost about 70p one way

Well if anybody had any doubts I think this should clear it up from the UEFA.com Europe here we come!!

Sorry SG194 but I hate it when people say this -my question is WHY? We deserve without question to be where we are - as does any team Just because we are 'little old' Blackburn doesn't mean to say we are - we have been here before more than alot of teams can say so we certainly have the credentials if not the prestige.

And a great opportunity to put it on sale to the fans before/after the game.

'Dream on dreamer' Jeepers Eddie - so you are happy for the 'non footballer' to amble through another 3 seasons picking up wages for doing next to nothing? Some people really are blind to what is so apparently obvious - he has been given ample opportunity and has failed miserably - which is no surprise to me considering what I saw in his first season never mind since.

'Engalnd' rock steady. Anywhere for me - all depends on the timing and where but as already mentioned we will probably end up playing Gretna

Are you sure he was injured 1864, seems like normal to me? As I have said for the past 2 n half seasons - YES get rid.

Good on ya GAV - at least he realised it the 2nd time. You never know some good may come of it he might be GAV mk 2 now in a similar situation with him and somebody else.