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I think you’re talking about reasonable people. I’m on about the people who are laying the blame entirely at the head coaches door, but before the match saying anyone will fail at this circus. If that’s true then why be surprised when we drop points? It doesn’t matter who the coach or manager is, it’ll never work.

We shrank before that, that’s why they equalised. Bizarre that team morale and energy just dropped when Carter got injured.

They are detached and disinterested but at the same time phoning in interference for their underlings to carry out.

He was okay generally, just not great as a wing back as his decision making slowed down play.

I liked Souness but that fire fizzled out towards the end. Bit unfair to compare the two, he had some very good players for the championship. And there's no way he would have signed up to the current shite that managers have to put up with.

I reckon the pre-game plan was to bring off Chrisene at some point, bring Wharton on, and move Pickering into Chrisene's position and keep a back 3 CB's and two wing backs. The injuries got in the way of that. I'm not really sure what the answer was without changing formation, and clearly neither did JDT. He was probably trying to stop us from losing rather than trying to win so wanted to keep a back 5, but Siggy didn't get the memo. Like you say he's probably running out of ideas with this team. Or rather this project.

Venkys do, Madame dickhead even said it after she sacked Allardyce.

Yeah I thought I'd made it clear that his successors and the owners are to blame for not addressing Mowbray's shortcomings. I thought the argument was that we weren't still feeling echoes of them.

I thought we were playing well until Carter went off injured. We certainly seemed more defensively solid but some of that may have been due to the absence of Wahlsted.

Well, the fact we were left with only one senior striker, and that was £5m signing Sam Gallagher, is entirely his fault. In the 18 months following his departure, this should have been addressed. It still doesn't take away from the fact that he had this bizarre idea that we should operate without centre forwards and it's still having an affect on the team today.

Without context yes, but is it not a contradiction to blame the manager and players whilst completely acknowledging that the owners shat in our general direction after a decent season, with the same head coach and many of the same players? Same as when I see people say that no coach/manager could work under these restrictions then say Tomasson needs to go.

I think there's a lot with their heads in the sand because getting rid of the guy in the dugout is a more realistic option than the owners disappearing up their own backsides. Only one of those things will make any difference at all. It wasn't great before the injuries and now it's at breaking point. We had the CEO state clearly what the expectations were for this season so to them it's entirely acceptable. We conceded because Sorba Thomas produced the only good corner that Ewood has seen him produce, and Gallagher is a fucking useless lump.

The only difference is we'd have one person to blame instead of two.

Some weird contradictions here, it's the owners fault, the players aren't good enough, but the manager should be doing better. Which is it? All I can see is that the owners cut us off and since then we've unsurprisingly declined. This won't magically won't go away if the head coach, DOF or new bargain basement signings arrive (probably Waggott too). I'm not going to apologise if that offends anyone's beliefs as it's pretty obvious. 13 years of dross and counting. Only one constant.

Just weird really, we were playing well at the time and 1-0 up. Carter gets injured, then there's a like for like replacement and the entire team reacted like they were in mourning. Does Scott Wharton have BO or something? Five minutes later we do concede a goal.

If he is getting a free ride it's probably because he led us to our best league finish since the fuckwits took over. Then the injuries blah blah blah, owners blah blah blah, lack of money blah blah blah and poor recruitment blah blah blah came along. Though it's arguable that he's not getting a free ride at all seeing as it seems most fans want him sacked.

Some positives are that Pears was an upgrade on Wahlstad. Adam Wharton played well, nicked the ball off the defender and took his goal well. JRC looked decent when he came on but unfit, how we've missed him emerging from his defence to give their defenders something to think about. Hyam was better today too. We're still playing without a proper striker. The one masquerading as one put in the least amount of effort to defend. The tallest man on the pitch made himself the smallest at the most crucial of moments and it's 1-1. Then he was downed in the box, a certain penalty, but the referee waved it away. Two defenders down injured. The one to Carter seemed to really affect us, which was bizarre as we rightly didn't change shape or tactics. Heads seemed to drop simply because Carter got injured.

It's supposed to be him.

Not entirely, it's a patched up cobbled together team. Imbalanced when Mowbray was here, now it's something only a bunch of stubborn twats who aren't interested in football could come up with.

Somewhere inbetween.

Pickering's hamstring's gone. Two defenders down in one game.

I know why we don't shoot now.

Gallagher was never going to get to the ball but their player clearly took him down in the box.

Great goal by Adam Wharton, well read and good finish 17 minutes in, injury to Carter, S Wharton on which seems to somehow take the energy out of all of our players. Then they score 1-1. Gallagher barely gets off the ground to allow them to head in. Shit referee'ing moment, we should have had a penalty. Movement is disappointing. Chrisene hasn’t had a terrible game so far but he needs to pass it forward more. His instinct seems to be to pass it backwards, or linger too long on the ball. He's slowing down play on that side. The lack of players wanting to have a shot is killing us too. How many times do we get in a decent shooting position only to pass it?

A clear foul on Garrett, a clear foul on Gallagher. Tronstad fouls once and gets carded. Fucking imbecile referee. A foul on SS, nothing.