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I remember a lad at primary school singing "Jimmy Quinn, Jimmy Quinn, Jimmy Quinn." (to "here we go") Went home and told my Dad who responded with... "Why's he singing about him? Bloody rubbish."

I was an infant during the Kendall, Smith and Saxton years. I always felt a bit sorry for Mackay, he tried his best then Dalglish swooped in and made Jack Walker's (and our) dreams come true. A lot deny Allardyce was a decent manager for Rovers. He frustrated at times but no one can deny he did well and it's often forgotten that he too was dealing with disinterested owners. Not complete two hats like we have now but it's now obvious they couldn't wait to offload to the nearest set of imbeciles.

Where did I say it was his fault? The point is, he's redundant.

It’s very odd that he seems to get revered like the best of our managers of the last 30 years. Even in L1 he served up some dross with a good squad for that league. Dalglish, Souness, Hughes, Mowbray.

15th, 11th, 15th, 8th. it was the promotion from L1 that the goodwill comes from. On social media I’m seeing people saying we did better under Mowbray than JDT. When we had two absolutely dire seasons finishing 15th after millions spent. During both of those seasons many fans wanted him sacked.

I can’t see them loaning him, it sounds as if they want to offload him to sign someone better. So they need a fee. The consensus seems to be that he chips in with goals but is a poor player generally. So Gallagher then, younger version.

£4m! Where are all these silly fees for poor little known championship players coming from? After reading this I wouldn’t pay £40k. https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/mileta-rajovic.60733/#post-3304521

It was no secret too. The big worry is that Waggott seems to get most things wrong. Let’s hope that his expectations of survival were not.

He’s got another season after that. I’m still amazed they gave Mowbray money and a guy that finished just outside of the play off places in his first season has had to work with the likes of Mola and Telalovic.

In a couple of weeks he’ll do an interview in which he smiles a lot, talks about challenges and how he’s been chasing a player we’ve never heard of for 6 months. Then that’s him done till Summer.

But everyone says Brittain is shit at left back. So that’s you sacked in the morning. Edit. For the record, I should say that’s what I’d have done too.

Plenty of these on social media. Slating JDT and Broughton for not signing a 20 goal striker like Mowbray did with Armstrong. And angrily denying any blame should be directed at the owners because they put in £20m a year. Theres a lot who think JDT wanted and signed Telalovic too.

He looked like he was flagging to me. That’s all I can think of.

We needed defenders badly when Brereton was bought. It’s easy to look at it free of context and look at the important goals he eventually scored but we needed some pragmatic signings at the time. Gallagher was a terrible waste of money. Probably Mowbray’s most bizarre signing. Was he drunk?

I think you’re talking about reasonable people. I’m on about the people who are laying the blame entirely at the head coaches door, but before the match saying anyone will fail at this circus. If that’s true then why be surprised when we drop points? It doesn’t matter who the coach or manager is, it’ll never work.

We shrank before that, that’s why they equalised. Bizarre that team morale and energy just dropped when Carter got injured.

They are detached and disinterested but at the same time phoning in interference for their underlings to carry out.

He was okay generally, just not great as a wing back as his decision making slowed down play.

I liked Souness but that fire fizzled out towards the end. Bit unfair to compare the two, he had some very good players for the championship. And there's no way he would have signed up to the current shite that managers have to put up with.

I reckon the pre-game plan was to bring off Chrisene at some point, bring Wharton on, and move Pickering into Chrisene's position and keep a back 3 CB's and two wing backs. The injuries got in the way of that. I'm not really sure what the answer was without changing formation, and clearly neither did JDT. He was probably trying to stop us from losing rather than trying to win so wanted to keep a back 5, but Siggy didn't get the memo. Like you say he's probably running out of ideas with this team. Or rather this project.

Venkys do, Madame dickhead even said it after she sacked Allardyce.

Yeah I thought I'd made it clear that his successors and the owners are to blame for not addressing Mowbray's shortcomings. I thought the argument was that we weren't still feeling echoes of them.

I thought we were playing well until Carter went off injured. We certainly seemed more defensively solid but some of that may have been due to the absence of Wahlsted.

Well, the fact we were left with only one senior striker, and that was £5m signing Sam Gallagher, is entirely his fault. In the 18 months following his departure, this should have been addressed. It still doesn't take away from the fact that he had this bizarre idea that we should operate without centre forwards and it's still having an affect on the team today.

Without context yes, but is it not a contradiction to blame the manager and players whilst completely acknowledging that the owners shat in our general direction after a decent season, with the same head coach and many of the same players? Same as when I see people say that no coach/manager could work under these restrictions then say Tomasson needs to go.