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Well, you can get away with one average/poor striker as long as the other one is top class. Try to imagine a forward line with two Mattys' in. We would hardly win a game IMO. That's some kind of gauge of how far Matt has to go yet. That's all.

Yes, you're right, it might sound that way. Got to point out though, that I was one of those shouting " Oh Matty, Matty. - Matty Matty, Matty, Matty Derbyshire." At full voice. He will and does get my full support as does every [including Lucas] rovers player. As for his future - we will see. He has a LONG way to go.

Not going to tell lies about him Fife, just because he's only 20. He's done nothing yet. I did say "yet".

He's not been any surprise BRY. At the moment, he isn't up to it. Sounds horrible doesn't it. Just being honest in the way I see things.

If rovers were to have played every game this season, with two Matty's in attack, we would inevitably have been relegated. Don't get carried away. Derbs is no where near good enough to start games - yet.

Not for me you don't.

Then you justify that by saying it's because he scored. By that criteria, Derbyshire shouldn't have appeared because Nonda and Benni should have had 5 games apiece. You can't just elevate someone because of one tap in. You have to pick your best side don't you? BTW, apart from the tap in, he did little else - as you will know.

Explain that a bit more Theno?

Can't imagine rovers paying anywhere near £2m for Dunny. They would be so foolish to pay more than 500K.

The link to Stuwilkys' post.

To show that rating each part of a players talents seperately proves nothing.

Tell you what Theno, do the same with the Beckham of 5 years ago - and be fair.

Matt Derbyshire: Born: 14/04/1986 That makes him 21 in four months time. At that age, strikers should be showing a bit more IMO.

Cut the insults please. Anyone got any more views on Gally?

Rover6, two points: This thread is about the success or otherwise of academies. You're simply arguing for youngsters to be given a chance. What are your views on the academy system? You mention Gray, Gamst, Mokoena and Traore. Could it just be, although these players have bad days, they are more suited to Prem football than anything else rovers currently have? Yes, even Mokoena, or do you have another name that you can pluck from the list of academy lads?

On SSN, Dunny's saying it's up to Brum if they sell him in Jan. He said he's got 5 months left on his contract and that everyone knows he's a Blackburn fan, - always has been and always will.

Yes, no McCarthy for that one.

Pathetic showing from Rovers.

Neill gets told off by Poll, for getting annoyed for a bad tackle against him by a Reading player.. No booking!

Jay booked

Charlton losing at home to Liverpool 0-3. Good news.

I would guess McCarthy up front with Ped just behind him.

Ped up front, with Gray in midfield? Or maybe 5 in midfield and Benni on his own up front. I dunno.

ROVERS: Friedel, Neill, Todd, Tugay, Savage, McCarthy, Bentley, Gamst, Ooijer, McEveley, Gray. Subs: Brown (GK), Nonda, Matteo, Derbyshire, Peter.