I don't see how you can be so adamant that he is and will be unfit, but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Expect for the fact this was the line here all last summer and we spent over 10 million for a finish.

Pretty sure he is fit in fairness and there is a huge difference between him and Caddis. One look at their career history will show that! As I said, I think we have enough midfielders as things stand, so I'm just wondering who will leave if we do sign Adam. Smallwood surely, Evans? Buckley on loan makes sense.

Ya, well spotted. Thinking is a strange word to use there isn't it. How does he know what anyone is thinking?

We will know one way or another over the next 4 weeks I suppose

I would just take that to mean the money will be added to what is there currently. Particularly as they have stated in record we have money to spend I'm actually relived to read Mowbray say we will sign a keeper. I had a bad feeling we wouldn't. Reading some comments from Wigan fans on twitter. They can't get their heads around them bidding 5 million for someone.

Of all oldies we have signed over the last few years, I do think Adam had the most potential to be like a Tugay signing. He was never athletic, so I still think he could play his game pretty well I just think we have so many midfielders currently.

In fairness he could. He's had a decent Premier league career. If he couldn't jump or head the ball, that would have fairly held him back!

It's a combination of wages and fees by the sound of things. I don't think we necessarily had to sell Raya before we brought someone in, more just that's how things have worked out.

Dann is a good defender. He is just one of those guys I really associate with a very bad time for the club. He was definitely one of the better ones though. It's a very surprising link to be honest. He must be on enormous wages. I wonder is Nixon just making shit up, again

My point was I would expect a 28 international to be able to do that stuff already.

I haven't seen any bickering over the last few pages. Are you getting in pre emptively?? Probably a good shout ?

I would much prefer to see us sign Janssen for the same money!!!

That Scott Dann link is gas. Can't be real, can it? I wonder would shearer come back? Why aren't we in for Janssen from leeds??

Leutwiler is 28, I don't think a goalkeeper coach could be expected to turn him into Buffon

I don't think he did much for his reputation the way things ended up. Like did he actually reject the contract or just not answer?

Ya, that is true and I think it was very unfair on Nyambe in particular. Mowbray is definitely quicker to critisice the young lads. Although I do remember after one game where Mulgrew was shocking and Mowbray did say he would expect a lot better from the more experienced players. Although he didnt go as far as naming Mulgrew. Publicly critisicing your captain though, it's a risky move. Bennett gets away with murder to be honest.

Of course he can do wrong. It's just unlike some I don't think everything he does is wrong.

Maybe he just doesn't have the ability? I don't think you could blame the coach for his shocking kicking. I mean that is basic stuff and yet he got it wrong repeatedly.

Depends on who we sign to replace him

Maybe, but Mulgrew was dropped for the final 6 games. In fairness as well, while those guys for sure made errors,Rayas were hard to ignore or miss. The one against Birmingham was spectacular

But that's not evidence that he is bad though is it? It's speculation. Yet it's repeatedly stated on here that he is a bad coach.

OK so Mowbray just confirmed that Raya pushed for the move. So as a few of us suspected he was told he wouldn't be automatic first choice and then pushed for the move. Interesting.

You see the season isn't starting yet, so we could actually sign someone next week and it would be fine, or even the week after.

Apparently Janssen has a bit of an attitude. That's why Leeds are selling. It's a low fee for a good championship centre half. Very good. We should be all over that. Him and Lenihan centre half would be good.