You wouldn't understand even if I explained it to you

Mings moving to villa for £30 million. That's what we are dealing with these days. On Travis, before ye all start getting the pitch forks out. The poster clearly said Mowbray likes him and is reluctant to sell.

Just no like. Simple as that.

Ya, that was a bit of an odd loan when you look at the rest of his career. Still doesn't change the fact he's practically the same age as Evans and has had arguably a better career. I wonder has he had injuries. As is said earlier though, I hadn't heard of him before yesterday. Had you?

I'd say his biggest achievement was getting man of the match when Forest knocked arsenal out of the FA Cup... Or being top scorer at the under 19 euros.

Butterfield is 29

What formation or formations did we use against Barrow?

Ya, different but Buckley just looks weaker. Depends on what formation we play I suppose , but there will be 2-3 positions for Johnson Travis Davenport Buckley Adam Butterfield Smallwood Evans Something is going to have to give. I actually like the look of the first five names on the list. Could Buckley play Dacks role?

I think Adam would be the better option now and Buckley off on loan for a season to league 1. Do you think Buckley could be a starter next season? Not so sure from what I have seen. I don't think he looks as robust as Travis.

Ya but will he get game time if we have Johnson, Adam, Davenport, Travis and Butterfield as the midfield options? I can't see it. Loan be best for him this season.

I watched some of fyter fest last night. Moxley and Janela. Ya, it was grand. PG ish "death matches" are what they are. It's not really my cup of tea. Omega gave Moxley a believable enough looking beat down afterwards Page v Havok v Jungle boy v MJF was pretty enjoyable. MJV is a character. He was at an OTT show in Dublin a while back and apparently he said "it sucks to be in the UK" followed by the following when he got booed for suggesting Ireland is in the uk "it's a pity the potato famine didn't finish the job". Now that's some good heel shit.

I doubt Hibs could afford Mulgrews wages Evans to Rangers would make sense for all parties I feel.

OK, now the line on twitter is Evans to Rangers. Which would make sense. Anyway, it's all guesswork I would say

Yes, the point that it's a possibility the goal keeper coach isn't great remains

And for the record, I had never heard of Butterfield til yesterday.

So it's confirmed that Jacob Butterfield is training with the club. Something is going to have to give pretty soon with regards outgoings in midfield... I think it's a good call by Mowbray to get these lads in and have a look. For one thing, at a minimum it will give a kick up the arse to those here already and let them no their places are under threat.

Seems like a pretty chaotic summer for the vast majority of championship clubs in one form or other. I would actually say we seem to be on the more settled end of things, which is hard to imagine after the last decade.

How would you be more furious about those 3 leaving than Dack or Lenihan?? I would actually be furious if Graham left too the be fair

Of those who could realistically leave, I would put them in the following catagories Acceptable leavers Evans Smallwood Bennett Mulgrew Would not be happy with them leaving Nyambe Travis Forget about it Dack Lenihan I can't see anyone else leaving apart from the above

3 keepers? Bit harsh if you are including Fisher in that list. It's a possibility of course yes, but one that is just speculation at this point. Obviously I would love if we had Friedel or Shay Given as GK coach...

Some on twitter saying it might be Bennett leaving. That would be.... Surprising

No, it's not the point. You have moved onto somehting different. What we were discussing was the fact the line here all last summer was that we had nothing to spend. Which turned out to be incorrect. How the money as spent is a seperate issue

Now you can't just say that and leave us hanging. Do not say Nyambe. I think people would be far more miffed over that.

Ya, I actually liked him over the years as well. I would hope that if we do make an offer, serious due diligence will be shown by the medical team during his medical. It seems Stoke fans wanted him to stay. On the trials thing. I actually say fair play to him. Some players with his cv would think it beneath them to have to come and basically audition for a deal

Not the point though! The line here was we nothing to spend all summer, then we spent over 10 million.