Thanks. From what I was told, there was more than just O’Neil, but as stated Pasha overruled this and Ismael was recommended to the owners, due to his wage fitting the budget.

I missed an S off the choice, as there were choices, but Waggott was overruled by Pasha, who chose Ismael due to his wage fitting the budget. Thanks for accepting your words to me were harsh. Im not too sure what you are asking about Pasha and Gestede, but if I have got what you are asking right, Gestede possibly got the job he did at Rovers due to their friendship, but I’m guessing there. Gestede did play under Kean at one point and of course Kean and Pasha, both have a connection to Kentaro. It does feel like the people around from the very early days, have not all disappeared.

If my comments are unfair then don’t you think yours are too? You said that my post that a record of one win in 12 games was pathetic was harsh and that he had them 9th in the table when he was sacked. That record is not only pathetic, but you have made an excuse for it by stating the position of Watford in the table was acceptable, yet stated they were 4 places higher than they were. You also suggested that you researched this, so why try to defend him by lying for him, or have you made a genuine mistake? There was more than one manager ear marked for the job and very much like the Coyle for Warnock situation, Pasha persuaded the owners to take Ismael, as he fits the budget. we all know how Coyle being brought in after another manager was promised the job, turned out and I would suggest, history will repeat itself. On another note, Gestede and Pasha are good mates and have taken a holiday together.

He was cheaper than the original choice, who Waggott had signed off. Pasha overruled him.

Fair enough.

Yet, we have a poster, who thinks my comments that his record in his last two jobs was pathetic, is unfair.

I wonder if we will get a happy Easter in a few weeks?

By the way Watford were in 13th after the one win in 12 not 9th when he was sacked.

If that firm is a former shirt sponsor, I know who you mean, Its a wicked thing to do, turning down a free ticket, but is simply how bad things are.

Watford sacked him when he had won one in his last 12 matches. That’s 4 wins if that was the form over a season, that’s pathetic in my book, but clearly not yours. WBA sacked him for 12 wins in 32 when they were favorites for promotion. Not as pathetic as his Watford Gig but pathetic non the less, in my opinion. League position is irrelevant, as if we sack Ismael at the end of the season, if he wins no more games, it would be one win in 12 like Watford, but he had us higher than last season. My source was a former player, who I afraid I can’t name, but he is still close to the club and has told me, it is not unusual.

I have a mate who is a former player and current Championship clubs, scout. You almost certainly know him. He has told me similar things. He scouted and reported on one of our players recently at Ewood.

Gestede is poison and has recently told a fan to fuck off at a match. Fact

Think Muslims and you will be accurate.

Careful, you may be accused of posting tittle - tattle. I know that will be bang on though and cheers for posting it.

I think I had my meeting with Waggott the same day that you and Mark Fish were seeing him, back in November 2023. He was more interested in whether or not I was recording him, than discussing, the real reasons, I was there. As you say, talking to the club, has become a pointless exercise and I realised that back then. For what it’s worth Waggott, accidentally copied me into an E Mail to his P A so That I knew what he was covering up, before the meeting, which was also the reason, he was worried about being recorded. I also got the impression that I was being recorded too, but that could be a touch of paranoia on my part.

I agree and for what it’s worth, think Waggott has manipulated certain people and destroyed the real reason that the trust was set up for initially.

Already replied to that, but of course you won’t have it will you, as bizarre decisions, don’t happen at Rovers. The manager was chosen above 150 others apparently, yet he had a pathetic record in his last 2 jobs. I am a lot more inclined to believe he was chosen, due to being happy to accept interference in team selection, than his past record and his ability to set up a team, coach them, get results against cannon fodder and have an identifiable style of play.

Yes really and I posted my team at the time. Tronstad was on the bench and came on, so was fit to start, so if not fit enough for the full 90 he could have been taken, off as required. Forshaw is not good enough, simple as that, but cheap and therefore was signed to fill the squad, yet got a few starts, above other players, as you well know, but you won’t accept that, like you won’t accept plenty of other things that smack you right between the eyes. If you go back to the early days under Venkys, the same happened then. In fact a fan was texting a certain individual, who in turn, made the substitutions and not the manager. If you look back at that time, even the signing of Jordan Rhodes came about due to a suggestion from a fan and that is 100% accurate. Of course, you may choose not to believe it, as you have this insane desire to defend the club you love at all costs and still think we will make the play offs, despite almost every one else on here, knowing, we have a dud manager, who will not cut the mustard. You will only accept that, once he has been sacked, at which point you will change your opinion of him, just as you have with the last 2 managers.

Ok

I think my understanding of tittle- tattle and yours probably vary. I would suggest it means rumors with no substance, which this isn’t.

Exactly this and the very reason, I suggested he was told to play Forshaw in his first game and did.

I’m not reacting to some tittle-tattle. I know and trust the person(s) who have heard this and think it is highly likely to be true. If you heard something like this from someone you trust, would you not post it? I have not stayed 100% as the person who it came from hasn’t.

There are other people who have posted on here today, who have been told about this. It isn’t 100% definite, but unlikely to have just been made up. So far as being told to play certain players, I would like to put it out there that the current manager, was not appointed based on his record in his last 2 gigs and was certainly not good enough in those jobs to warrant the length of contract he got. In my mind, it is therefore possible that he accepted that he would be told to play certain players and given what I was told about Forshaw, think this is more likely than him being chosen above all those other supposed applicants on his past achievements.

I was told that from a very reliable source and do believe it.