Just now, philipl said:

I am not going to elaborate but I would not wish the current problems of that individual on my worst enemy.

Sup with the devil...

I don't wish bad things on many people, but I have to make the odd exception and here is one. 

Just now, philipl said:

This should be pinned prominently.

The culpability of the football authorities in not enforcing their own rules is massive. Don't think that the letters written by John Williams and Tom Finn were not also massive wake -up calls which went totally unheeded by the EPL and FA.

The Raos themselves probably had just cause for complaints against the EPL and FA. The fact they were made complicit in the deception of the original contracts complicated matters but no doubt they engaged lawyers engaged after they had been bought Rovers who were capable of reading FIFA, UEFA, FA and EPL rule books. Perhaps it is not surprising at least three third party companies directly involved in the Rovers acquisition have been wound up.

Don't forget there were probably even more explicit contracts which would have handed the club over to the ministrations of Crescendo and Kentaro involving Lawrence Bassini before it was obvious he would not pass fit and proper as the Rovers owner.

Which brings us back to Bolton...

Its quite remarkable really that the individual who was most responsible for this, got away with what he did. when you look at the way, he manipulated the change of management, brought about signings that had third party ownership written all over them and somehow got his son a premier league players contract, is beyond belief. I shudder to think how much he must have made out of it and like you say, it's not surprising that at least 3 of the companies, involved in the acquisition have been wound up.

There are still people at work, trying to rid Rovers of Venky's as it still feels dirty that they are still involved. 

I’ve said it until I am blue in the face. Do not trust Venkys. Have they ever explained what was going on in the early days and why for example, Coyle was from the same stable? People say they were badly advised, but too many things point to them being complicit.

until the come out and explain, what was and probably still is going on, I will remain fearful of the clubs future.

Just now, DE. said:

Other than the penalty did we have a lot of other opportunities from open play? Curious as to how we fared creatively.

We had a couple of decent chances. Buckley could have made a name for himself, but blazed over, from a good ball in from Gallagher 

44 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Tony, when I was 15 I played for the school team on Saturday mornings, Darwen Olympic on Saturday afternoons, Rising Sun on Sunday mornings and Darwen under 18s on Sunday afternoons.

EVERY WEEK.

And as you know there would also be midweek games at the beginning and end of the season. Mark Patterson played in three of those teams with me and he went on to play hundreds of professional league games at a high level.

Snowflakes just about sums it up mate!

Them were the days. I had a few games in the same side as Mark too. He was at Darwen Vale, so played against him for our school team every year as well. Good days those were. 

2 hours ago, DE. said:

Fortunately for them it's League 1 so they still have a chance of getting some points. Could line up with eleven traffic cones and some games would still end 0-0.

Last time the Clarets tried that one, it was a warm up for the Orient game in 1987. The cones won 1-0.

Just now, Tom said:

I’ve written Mowbray off before and immediately looked daft on the back of it.

However something seems amiss at the moment, feels there’s a bit of a rot set in, the window clearly didn’t go as planned and you could see the crowd turning if we have a bad run.

Against Charlton around me there was a lot of comments about him losing the plot with his subs etc 

I think Saturday is huge now and expect the crowd to turn on him if we lose and the recent traits continue. 

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Classic Mowbray.

Perhaps he thinks we are doing well. Only conceded one, so far. 

13 hours ago, 47er said:

The only consistent feature of my entire life!!!   

I'm on to Grand children now, having one aged five. He lives and goes to school in the Preston area, but already owns two Rovers kits and won't let anyone say a wrong word about us. His mum is a staunch supporter of course, as is his Uncle Simon. 

I genuinely think that a lot of the problems here are down to the owners not being hands on and us having no one in authority to make the final decisions on spending. Yes the two fees for Gallagher and Brereton look way too high, but if we had a hands on chairman, who has the best intentions of the club, to sanction, or question the signings, perhaps these two wouldn't have happened and a different defence would now be available. 

55 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

I wonder if Deloitte gave them a get out plan as part of the piece of work they did for them. Surely at some point they can't keep losing money on us?

From what I have read on another article Deloitte and the other firm of accountants that came in, did so, as there was money going missing that couldn't be explained. It seems that their forensic accountancy work, found out what the problem was and sorted it. 

I remember both Stonehouse and Lowey well. Both steady enough players and sad to hear of their passing.

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

He wasnt a calamity until the own goal. He's so much better than Del and Lenihan as centre halves go....him and the big guy would do me in the middle. 

Perhaps he could get himself sacked for going on the lash and we can then sign him as a free agent.

13 hours ago, Spankus Munky said:

Yeah only Middlesbrough, Hull, Cardiff & Baggies up the next couple of weeks ?

Six points minimum from those, starting with 3 V Boro next week. ?

Last week was bad. Today was always going to be tough. Sitting bottom never feels nice, but I see us getting better over the next few weeks.

Tosin looks good and once we have Lenihan playing alongside him and Cunningham in the side, we will be stronger and will stop shipping poor goals. Their first today was a good strike and not a lot you can do,

We won’t threaten the top six I’m afraid, but I’m sure we will finish higher than last season.

Just now, philipl said:

How on earth can the BBC have possession 66-34 in Fulham's favour?

I looked to see how far Rovers were ahead.... 

Playing out from the back, but looks dodgy 

Fulham playing a very dangerous game playing out from the back. We have pressed them and come close to making something off it a couple of times.

Great strike by Cairney. Thought the defence were far better than last week. Tosin looks class. Gallagher having a good game too.

Just now, Miller11 said:

He sounds like he’s on the verge of losing it completely with some of that.

 

We have been in football a long, long time. We see the deficiencies and where we need to strengthen. It is not as easy as getting somebody who is better than someone who is in our team who some people might want to move out of the team and someone else come in.

How much do they cost? Where are the free transfers that are better than the players we have in our team and how much wages do they cost. Everybody has a name and says 'why don't you and get him?' Well if I phoned up about him and they are saying he is £20million and we can't afford him so we have to move onto the next one. And if we phone up about him and they say he is £10million well we can't afford him. Why don't we swap Tyler Magloire for the centre half at Rochdale, whoever he is, and stick him in our team and see how we get on?

"You have to find players who you feel are better at doing the job. And I know people might say 'I could be better than him' I can feel it, I don't read social media or the newspapers but I can feel by the angles of the questions then you have probably been reading that. And if people have been asking those questions well it isn't that easy.

"It is tough to find people who are better than the ones you have got for the money that is in your budget to improve your football team. We can all just sign players but is anybody any better? Are they going to improve? That is the job and that is how hard it is.

"Let's see how we go and trust the players and try and make them better and improve them. They are good lads, they want to work hard, they want to improve and they want to get better, they want a winning team and so do I.”

 

It reminds me a bit of a former manager that who said we could go on a 10 game winning streak now, but we haven't got 10 games left? WTF is all that about?

On ‎06‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 17:20, Miller11 said:

Having sat there and seen and heard Mowbray make the infamous “defenders are coming” speech, I too cannot believe he has made an about turn without something behind the scenes happening. If he didn’t select Bennett over Nyambe I don’t think there’s be any decent argument that he wasn’t desperate to sort out the defence but is being hamstrung.

That quote will be getting brought up a lot over the next few weeks I imagine, and I guarantee it will at the next consultation meeting.

That's exactly why I firmly believe that they owners have not learned their lessons. I am convinced Mowbray would not have said what he did, had he not meant it, but here we are 3 months later and it hasn't been sorted. There are still outside influences in my opinion, affecting what goes on and that has happened since the very day the owners turned up. 

They tickets did go on sale and were withdrawn again, as the fans kicked off about the prices. the main gripe was there are no season tickets on sale at the minute and the season ticket holders missed a match last year, as their last home game V Brentford was cancelled. They were priced at £24 and no reductions for last seasons season ticket holders.

I don't know if the are having a rethink about the process, given the reaction, or there is something more sinister going on. Serious trouble ensues come what may though. 

I find it incredible to be honest that certain people think that the past is the past and lessons have been learnt. Venkys will never learn their lessons and hiding away in India, funding the club for some strange reason, does not mean they have learned their lessons. They still have no proper structure or plan for the club and just lurch from one disaster to another. Do not be surprised to see a relegation battle again this year, another managerial casualty and some cheap chancer brought in to put it right. 

2 hours ago, tomphil said:

How can it be to keep us within FFP ?

It won't help with FFP at all, as it was designed to stop this happening in the first place. It does depend of course what the funds are used for, as some of it would be ignored, if for example, it was used toward the academy. It is still frightening how much money the owners need to keep pumping into the club to keep it going. A lot has been self inflicted, but I still see no reason, why they keep on with this.

Just now, Harry The Bass said:

The way this is washed over as a simple achievement after Coyle and with our owners is hard to read.

I did fear we would be down there for a while and spare the thought, wondered if we would drop even further. After the ridiculous appointment of Coyle I guess the only way was up and thankfully we have moved in the right direction. Understandably fans now want success in this division and a return to the top flight, so Mowbray's credit has now run out with most people and he is about to feel a real backlash, unless the next 5 games, show an improvement. 

I have followed this a fair bit, as I have family and close fans, who are Wanderers fans. I can’t see a way out of this for them and hope they somehow survive. Sounds like Bury are also in serious trouble. Could this be the start of the combustion of football, that many have predicted?