JBiz

On the final part Re derby - I wasn’t there, I wouldn’t be surprised though, or one of the people who think it’s a good idea! You can understand their reaction though? When the game is on, most (Imo, especially away) fans are disconnected from the problems of ownership and lousy backroom management. They’re focused on the team, and John (leaving to go somewhere more ambitious, I would acknowledge, accept and understand that) deserved ire of the supporters of our team! Which he turned his back on publicly, and now goes on to cherry pick parts of it, including back room staff. He’s a prick as far as I’m concerned, and that view doesn’t make our management problems any less severe. Going back to the publicly asking the directors to stay home the comments I heard constantly “own goal” as it’s easy to make rovers fans look like dicks sat 5th in the league or whatever it was, demanding people who’s very job is to turn up, to stay home! One bloke in the WMC made a very simple point to me at the time, the trusts entire position should be finding and working with potential new owners, as a positive solution, rather than trying to create “media waves”. I’m not sure I think it’s that simple but he had a point.

I don’t think it’s done anything positive personally but that’s opinions. I also need to point out, if you talked to as many rovers fans as you could, young and old - the majority wouldn’t have described that as “a good move”. I personally think losing 6 on the bounce or whatever it was, did a lot more to open us up to media criticism.

The time and effort thing is also a huge barrier for me personally, I already chair a group that runs charity stuff, and that takes up most of my spare time. I just thought important to add the part about how I felt it came across. Not that I don’t understand why, banging your head against a wall for over a decade can’t be a healthy pastime!

I’ve never spoken to Mike, I’ve read his posts on here and I watched his address (and the full trust video) but I just couldn’t help but feel put off getting involved. I appreciate that the work they’ve done hasn’t come off like we and they want, and I know it’s not the trust or anyone from the FF or WATR etc - it’s all down to the club, I get that but need to stress it again!… I felt put off getting involved because of the sheer negativity, “the he said she said, we did this, they took credit etc” If I’m having that response - someone who cares deeply for the club, then it’s obvious to me that it would disengage many other fans too. Surely we need them all onside to change the ownership? The “demanding Rudy, Steve and Pasha don’t come to the games”, another thing I just thought a stupid response and easy to turn back on the fan group. I don’t know the answers, I don’t have solutions - but I thought a pertinent thing to add since that’s how I felt. Getting the majority of rovers fans to engage with these groups surely requires a different approach.

This required a laughing emoji reaction because I agree 😂

Also are you sat at home going “thank god that guy cost 1.25m and not 750k”…?

Honestly I’ve never read such a paranoid load of waffle, if you’d left it at the first sentence it would’ve made sense. They just employ people poor at their jobs ffs, and there isn’t a fan in Blackburn who would give a fuck about a player being 1m or 2m in cost. We give a fuck about how good they are. Nobody ever cared that Nzonzi was less then a million, or the fees we paid for the likes of Nelsen, Samba etc - they where revered because they played well.

Is it only me who is bored stiff of this stuff? Why would owners who don’t give a fuck about the club set a perceived false agenda? To safe face? Give me a break.

Yea I’d agree and theirs has probably gone up. Probably close to double ours now!

Wonder what their total wage bill currently is compared to ours, it’s a difficult thing to find out until the financial year after.

Also according to some basic online stats which may be well off, Darragh Lenihan is Boro’s top earner on 20k+. I doubt any of our players are on that, let alone a wage structure with those sort of figures built in for parity. It will always come down to turnover unless we’ve a owner who wants to invest, funnily enough, like Boro. Miller could be a solid investment though and I’m looking forward to a long throw as a weapon!

To me it’s obvious, better proven players in the league command far higher salaries than those coming into the division or even country (unless they’re coming from a top level!). As frustrating as i imagine we both find it, the prerogative is keeping the wage bill low. £1m and £10k a week over 3 years is cheaper than a £20k a week 3 year deal.

Nice to be constantly reminded really. Cheers

More a “let’s stop letting them have the ball” issue.

Equally - it’s not all shysters and shadows, there are people working hard at the club, acknowledging that isn’t defending any Venkys malaise. I also don’t think you get people to engage with you by taking that approach, but I’m not or never will be involved in any of this because of the sheer time it must take up.

Brittain was obviously very good for this level anyone being honest would say that, also proven by rivals wanting and one ultimately getting him. All teams will have swill of players course your right on that, I would just echo the perceptions of a few other posters this morning suggesting it’s nice to see a more proactive approach that’s not relying on loans. Of course, as a few point out, a lower budget = more gambling but if you go back to the premier league days, some of our best signings came for cheap, especially during the trust and John Williams time. The levels we got from getting multiple international captains, like Nelsen, Ooijer, Mokoena et al for the prices we did. Obviously this is a complete different kettle of fish but I just prefer punts like this than loans or 30+ year olds on short contracts.

At least two of those weren’t part of our best 11 for the year before so I would argue your point is moot. It’s just potential issues, as per.

What do you get out of spreading so much muck btw? Notice you didn’t quote tweet yourself saying Britain signed a new contract 😂

There’s a podcast (think it’s called “I had trials” or something) with him on last week, talking about it, plus his experiences at rovers.

You know what I’m thinking 😂

Maybe it’s not all as bad as many make out. I’ve said since January that since GB, this is make or break for Rudy. I felt too early to judge. VI is his man.

How did brittain get on?

Rovers losses makes sense, I assumed you meant Venkys own business losses, and taking money out of the club, not putting it in. Commercial is the obvious one, aka overall income / turnover. Better management would improve that - I’m not sure it would be enough to put us into a position to have a lot more competitive salaries though.

You make a lot of content, it’s difficult not to see your stuff first. It’s invariably revisionist, goal post moving stuff that just irks, and as you know, has done for probably a decade. Decent signing, we’d agree - that’s the neutral observation. We needed and wanted a left sided centreback, he’s at peak, cheaper than he’s probably worth. I don’t see any issue.

Well done pointing out an issue already, I thought your biggest issue with the others was championship experience.