You could write an autobiography Waggy.

I like the simple 4-4-2 aswell. Usually it does the job-whatever league or team. On the old Champ Manager games 4-1-3-2 used to be the best formation. It seemed however that it was a kind of 'rigged' formation and thus doesnt really work now.

What a game! Europe here we come. Here's to Mark Hughes and the boys! Get in.

Good shout, I forgot about him. For a few million off Spuds he looks a snip.

Just say if and it's a big if that Owen and Rooney did miss the world cup, then there's no doubt that we'd be screwed. I suppose our best option then would be Crouch and Defoe, but I've never really rated the latter at International level, and Crouch is also unproven at the top level. What other strikers are there? Beattie/Johnson, Ashton/ Bent? They hardly wet the appetite do they?

Looking through the topics guys, I found this one. Yesterday reminded me how much we miss Tugs when he's out. I know he's signed a new deal, which is great, but it got me thinking what players were about who are similar to him for when we finally do have to replace him? I can think of Carrick and Rosicky who do similar jobs, but who we could probably not get. Any others?

I thought Pedersen had quite a good game? Better than he's been recently anyway.

Great performance and result, which takes us nearer to Europe. Memo to Hughesey: Rap Tugs up in cotton wool prior to every game. He was immense.

You know I was joking right? I'm pretty pants to be honest, only play the odd game with a mate. I can get the odd 20-30 but anything over that is a pipe dream!

comon Gazsimm it really isn't a hard sport at all once you try it...honest

Ronnie doesn't have to be bothered in order to play well though! Fair point on the sportmanship point though-seems to be happening more and more in sport.

I wouldn't be too hasty in letting him go. Provided we can get in a quality centre half to replace him then I think it would be okay. Off the top of my head I can only think of Lescott and Curtis Davies who could be available and do a steady job.

I too am confident of a Barca win against the Arse, but providing that they can get a few of their key injured players back for the game. Messi, Deco, Xavi et al. have been missing of late so it's important they get them back, although they did make Chelski look pathetic with one and a half of those players! Edit: Just seen that Deco is back for tonight, and Messi and Xavi not too far behind.

If Pongy is deemed to much of a trouble maker, then give Gally a go up with Bellers I reckon. Couldn't do much worse than Kuqi or Dickov? Failing that for those advocating that MGP is given a rest in the team, then he could have a go on the left.

As people have said 5 million plus would be a bare minimum for any midfielder who can bag you over 10 goals a season. As for Andy Reid, he's a fat man who cant even get into spurs team when they have no other natural left sided midfielders. He was good at Div 1 level, and not too bad for Ireland, but I'd expect somebody a little better than him if we were even contemplating selling MGP.

Weve been utter tripe since the spurs game, thats fact. You can probably count the number of chances weve had on one hand during these games (goals from bellamy excepted). We need creativity, and lots of it. How can anyone say that weve been playing pretty well of late. I take it your talking about us having the lions share of possesion against the scousers. Thats because they were one up, and were saying 'comon, were gonna sit back, what have you got?'...we had nothing. Were creating nowt, and getting nowt. Weve ran out of steam, and I can honestly only see potential points at home to City.

Comon boys, judging by the radio commentary, we havent remotely created anything again. Thank God Sutton still likes us judging by the sound of his sitter.

I hope he has got an injury for example, because at the moment his loan has been a complete waste of everybody's time. Good to see that Hughes has realised the threat of Pennant and got Lucas on him. Comon Rovers!!!

I thought that Reid was excellent, but I couldn't believe that the Admiral didn't get motm. The ground he made to get a touch on Cisse's effort was remarkable. He really is Colin Hendry's younger brother.

Well done to everyone that attended, that is some gate considering what we have been averaging. One dissapointment is that those who did turn up saw a boring affair that will probably not turn their few games a season visits into any more. Considering L'pool are European Champions they know how to bore fans.

I wouldn't be so annoyed had we not been able to hit a barn door, but one must shoot to hit the barn door.

A dire game. We got done over by the ref, but could have played all night and still not scored. It will be interesting to see the match stats because we did not fashion one decent chance. The Savage effort was our best and even the boldest of Rovers fans wouldn't have put a quid on him scoring there. A bad bad day...Tugay needs to come back in because were just not creating any chances at the minute.

Guys weve had a bit of bad luck. Thing to remember though is that it does more or less even it self out over the course of the season. We were woeful that first half, we didn't have 1 shot on or off target...as the home team that is pathetic. It doesn't look as if its a lack of effort, just class to be able to break them down.

2-1 Villa!

It's looking increasingly likely that we'll finish 6th at least. Everton and Wigan are losing whilst Notlob obviously lost, so unless we have a shocker for the rest of the season Europe is within reach.