We still haven't had a shot on target.

No to all of the above. His specialities are talking a lot of nonsense, lemon drizzle, spending a lot of money on strikers that don't score and playing Elliott Bennett at all times.

Since we've conceded first that's pretty much game over, again. Now looking at 3 points from 15 at best. Mowbray is taking us straight into a relegation battle.

Weirdly I'd be more confident if we were playing one of the better teams in the division. We're capable of pulling out surprise results against those kinds of team, because our sit back, contain and try to nick a goal tactic is perfect for that kind of opponent. It's opponents similar to ourselves that we struggle with the most.

Kean's approach to football wasn't cowardly though, imo anyway, it was just haphazard and clueless. I don't think it makes sense to compare the two in terms of their approach to games as Kean didn't seem to be pragmatic/overcautious/overthinking/fearful of the opposition at all. If he had been then he might actually have been more successful. Probably not though. You are absolutely within your rights to express your view on the usage of the words "coward/cowardly", but at the same time I think it would be ridiculous to try to censor or discourage their usage in regards to describing players or managers. I don't think it's generally considered that offensive, as there are far, far worse things said regularly outside of the BRFCS bubble. If that's the worst we have to put up with then we don't have to worry too much. I certainly don't consider it anywhere close to the level of calling fellow fans racist for criticism of a poor player, but of course you are also within your rights to believe it is similar, as long as there aren't any personal insults towards other posters involved. Yes, absolutely. Have said many times that I think TM is a decent enough person (despite questionable treatment of certain younger players). I don't consider the word "cowardly" in a footballing context to be in any way offensive, as it's usage is fairly common when describing defensive tactics and styles of management. It is not meant in the same derogatory way as it would be when aimed at a person's overall character. Considering some of the things that I've seen written about TM on here and elsewhere I'm genuinely stunned that my fairly innocuous post has caused such a stir! But passionate debate is still fine by me as long as it doesn't stray into personal attacks.

I don't think we have a single top half of the table defender in our ranks to be honest, other than Cunningham who is now done for the season. Combine that with Mowbray's style of football and it's not hard to see why we're struggling to maintain any level of consistency.

I'm calling his approach to football cowardly, not the man himself. I don't know enough about him on a personal level to make that judgement. Would be happy to explain to TM the reasons behind my thoughts on why his approach seems cowardly, and I dare say he'd engage me in some interesting conversation about the subject as he seems like a pretty balanced person.

I stand by my comments even if you're offended by them, sorry.

Highlights one of Mowbray's biggest weaknesses - his lack of confidence in his own players. Rather than trust in his own methods and the players he's assembled, he spends his time desperately figuring out ways to combat the opposition to the point of total madness, as with the quote above. Preparing for the opposition a few days before the game, fine. A scatterbrain approach over two months to rotate multiple players and systems just to confuse the opposition - not fine, because our players are likely to be just as confused! TM over-complicates things to a ridiculous degree. His lack of courage and cowardly fear of every team we come up against is why we will never, ever be promoted with him at the helm.

I reckon Rowett could get them above us if TM stays to be honest.

He's done for me. I'm not confident in Venky's picking anybody better and I think they are the root cause of the problem, but ultimately we need an overachiever in the dugout and Mowbray just isn't that guy.

Not my kind of game, unfortunately. Am currently working my way through Chaos;Child which is a lot longer than I thought it would be.

No point even bothering to predict a team as Mowbray will do his best to confuse us with whatever line up he selects. Expecting a miserable defeat here, 2 or 3-0. Mowbray will continue to bemoan injuries and blame Harry Chapman's u23 performances for the result. Brereton will be very upset on commentary.

I firmly believe that was a last second decision, made because we either desperately needed to free up funds to bring in Cunningham or because Mulgrew and Mowbray had a falling out of some kind. It makes no sense to me otherwise to let our captain leave on loan in the final minutes of the window to a divisional rival with no replacement.

Wigan beating Forest at HT. Puts them within a point of us as it stands.

Would agree with that, but another thing I noticed is that Downing did quite often wait for support to arrive in the area and was still left with very few options. We had literally nobody on the pitch who is renowned for scoring goals with their head, so the idea of crossing into the box seems a bit pointless unless Graham is on the pitch.

This comment from Mowbray in particular baffles me. This is something you would expect to hear from a manager who has just been appointed at a struggling club. You've been here for nearly 3 years Tony - how can this still be an issue? Why after so long are your players, seemingly by your own admission, not strong or robust enough to play how you want? It seems like an obvious question to ask but of course this wasn't followed up on by the esteemed local reporters.

Hudds are only six points behind us as it stands, and Stoke are seven points behind. If either of those two have gotten past us by the end of December then statistically speaking we are in serious trouble based on what would have been required for either of them to stay up based on the start they had.

It's pretty much always the other way around, with the opposing team taking the game to us, regardless of whether we're home or away. Even yesterday Huddersfield came close to getting a third towards the end. I'm sick of the spineless nature of our club. I want a team who go out there and try to impose themselves from first minute to last, who have the ambition to be winners and make the opponents worry about us rather than the other way around. Our team is 100% a reflection of the manager. Cautious, cowardly, weak and timid. With the talent we have at our disposal across the field (defence aside) we should not be defined by such negative attributes.

Our lack of ambition became obvious during the summer window. Some desperate panic moves on the last day doesn't change that. I believe we're far more likely to be relegated under Mowbray than promoted. One of these days we won't be able to pull the nose up from these frequent tailspins, and once that time comes we will likely be in an extremely precarious position even if the manager is removed. Realistically for Rovers to get promoted with Venky's at the helm we will need a manager who can significantly overachieve. Mowbray is not that man. He can meet realistic expectations, but there's no evidence in his past history or his time here that he can exceed them. Every season he's here will be a season wasted in mid-table, or perhaps worse when/if Venky's decide the plan isn't working and go through their next round of budget cuts.

With Stoke and Huddersfield both beginning to revive themselves we had better start looking over our shoulders. Keep throwing away points as we are doing and it won't be long until we're fighting to stay in the division.

I think everyone mentioned it tbf.

Shebby/Agnew/Shaw has to be up there too. Three absolute morons fighting for crumbs at a rotten table - whilst getting paid handsomely to do so.

I said a few weeks ago it feels like we're at the start of one of Mowbray's death spirals where we can't buy a win. At some point in the next couple of months we'll pick up a win and probably a few good results after that, causing the usual suspects to crow "have faith in TM", "get behind the lads ffs", etc, but the reality is that we're stuck in a bleak holding pattern which will see us go absolutely nowhere under this manager. Change is needed, but there's no way Venkys will know that and no way they'll get in anyone better even if Mowbray goes. We're stagnating from the very top and have been since the day the Trust sold us down the river.

Scoring two goals against a poor team at home should mean a win. Unfortunately thanks to our embarrassing defending that isn't the case. However, rather than work on this obvious Achilles heel we decided to let the lads spend the last week sunning themselves abroad. No ambition whatsoever.