Correct. Our club is a graveyard for players with any remote sense of individuality or creative flair. Dack is the only exception to this and it feels like that's in spite of the system rather than because of it.

I usually watch Dynamite on Thursday and then NXT on Friday - the latter has been a bit bland the last couple of weeks so I'll look forward to watching it tomorrow.

Especially funny when you read Mowbray saying he doesn't care about possession and only about scoring goals. It's in total contradiction with what we see with our own eyes - if we don't care about possession then why does our gameplan seem to revolve around having so much of it and doing so little with it? If it was a one off or had only happened in a few matches then fine, but as you say we have had more possession than the opposition in 12 of our 15 matches. That's not a coincidence, it's a deliberate pattern that clearly shows our game plan is based around keeping the ball. Unfortunately that same game plan rarely leads to useful shots on goal or indeed any shots on target at all. It's so ineffective that it's actually a genuine surprise when we score a goal, and if we go a goal behind then you can forget us winning the match. It never happens. Again this is the kind of thing a proper journalist would bring up with Mowbray when he makes nonsense comments - but they never do. He's given carte blanche to say whatever he wants without being questioned by anyone. The only time he ever gets pulled up is at the Q&A sessions, but then he just tells everyone what they want to hear before proceeding to fulfil none of his promises. Defenders are coming.

Dack is not anywhere close to the top of the list when it comes to our issues on the pitch. No player is going to be effective all the time - his stats show how valuable he is to us over the course of a season, irrespective if he has a few off games or spends portions of matches on the fringes. If our other players contributed anything worthwhile then his limitations would be less obvious, but much like JR, because the rest of the team is so limited and all eyes are on the star man to produce something his faults are scrutinised in far more detail than, imo at least, is warranted. Can you imagine where we'd be without Dack? We'd practically have zero creativity in the team at all. Theoretically it's possible Rothwell would produce but that's far from a certainty - in fact it's far from a certainty Mowbray would even select him - and Rothwell has come in for exactly the same criticisms as Dack, so it's unlikely much would change other than less goals and assists in the team. I look at the likes of Gallagher, Armstrong, Bennett, Johnson, Bell, Williams (at LB), Walton and think why even bother mentioning Dack? He's so far from being our biggest issue that discussing his weaknesses is practically irrelevant.

I imagine he was being paid a lot less at Coventry. A much lower profile position with no money to play with and a very limited chance of serious progression. Much easier to walk away from that than walk away from this, imo.

Not sure, but the fact we haven't come from behind to beat an opponent in the Championship since October 2014 is absolutely damning. Similarly I believe we haven't come from behind to win in any league match in something like two years - last time was during the L1 campaign. We have a topic on here talking about character because it's so obvious we have none, and I think that's been the case for a lot longer than just Mowbray's tenure. It's been pretty much a staple of the club since Venky's arrived and put Steve Kean in charge. Whatever is broken may not be fixable - it may just be that the owners' apathy and neglect trickles through the entire club and has a knock on effect which can sometimes be stifled but never completely erased. If so then we can swap managers over and over and the result will ultimately be the same. We have to hope that isn't the case though - as Venky's don't appear to be going anywhere - so instead we can only rely on finding a massive overachiever with enough determination and courage to overpower the curse the owners have put on the club. Would be some luck finding that guy though, especially with our so called "board" leading the search, and chances are that person's characteristics would cause another Lambert-like departure when they realised the scale of the mountain they would need to climb to achieve anything worthwhile here.

Oh you can absolutely guarantee that. A win at Preston and it wouldn't surprise me if the poll swings back to 70/30.

I don't necessarily disagree, but at the same time there are some very concerning stats going back a number of years which suggest something is fundamentally broken at a core level of the club. At the very least we need to fix this, even if it isn't through a total overhaul.

Bloody hell. That must be some kind of record?

Do you mean afford in the monetary sense or in terms of the impact it would have on the club in general?

No surprise when you consider one of only two players who scored regularly for us from open play last season has been benched for a gangly-limbed bloke wearing an alice-band and/or Adam Armstrong. Meanwhile the player we relied on for set-piece goals (10 last season) was gift-wrapped to Wigan without being replaced.

Tbf Bowyer brought in Duffy, Cairney, King, Conway, Gestede, Spurr and a few other decent purchases. Granted he made some real cock ups too, but most of those came after the plug had been completely pulled financially and we were left scraping the very bottom of the barrel.

Agreed. Most of Bowyer's purchases were for less than what we paid for Dack when we were in League 1.

Did Bowyer perform significantly (or any) worse than Mowbray? Better squad maybe but he also placed them far higher, albeit short of the goal. I can't help but think even if Mowbray had GB's best squad he'd still find a way to mire us in mid-table. Rhodes and Gestede on the wings with Cairney playing a false 9.

As if he needed any help overthinking things!

Could have fooled me, Tony!

Been a long time since I've seen such a one-sided poll for sacking a manager. Probably going back to the SK days.

lolwut? Didn't we come out in the second half with no changes? What is he talking about?

Can only hope that result pushes Mowbray one step closer to the exit. One shot on target in 90+ minutes. Pathetic.

We still haven't had a shot on target.

No to all of the above. His specialities are talking a lot of nonsense, lemon drizzle, spending a lot of money on strikers that don't score and playing Elliott Bennett at all times.

Since we've conceded first that's pretty much game over, again. Now looking at 3 points from 15 at best. Mowbray is taking us straight into a relegation battle.

Weirdly I'd be more confident if we were playing one of the better teams in the division. We're capable of pulling out surprise results against those kinds of team, because our sit back, contain and try to nick a goal tactic is perfect for that kind of opponent. It's opponents similar to ourselves that we struggle with the most.

Kean's approach to football wasn't cowardly though, imo anyway, it was just haphazard and clueless. I don't think it makes sense to compare the two in terms of their approach to games as Kean didn't seem to be pragmatic/overcautious/overthinking/fearful of the opposition at all. If he had been then he might actually have been more successful. Probably not though. You are absolutely within your rights to express your view on the usage of the words "coward/cowardly", but at the same time I think it would be ridiculous to try to censor or discourage their usage in regards to describing players or managers. I don't think it's generally considered that offensive, as there are far, far worse things said regularly outside of the BRFCS bubble. If that's the worst we have to put up with then we don't have to worry too much. I certainly don't consider it anywhere close to the level of calling fellow fans racist for criticism of a poor player, but of course you are also within your rights to believe it is similar, as long as there aren't any personal insults towards other posters involved. Yes, absolutely. Have said many times that I think TM is a decent enough person (despite questionable treatment of certain younger players). I don't consider the word "cowardly" in a footballing context to be in any way offensive, as it's usage is fairly common when describing defensive tactics and styles of management. It is not meant in the same derogatory way as it would be when aimed at a person's overall character. Considering some of the things that I've seen written about TM on here and elsewhere I'm genuinely stunned that my fairly innocuous post has caused such a stir! But passionate debate is still fine by me as long as it doesn't stray into personal attacks.

I don't think we have a single top half of the table defender in our ranks to be honest, other than Cunningham who is now done for the season. Combine that with Mowbray's style of football and it's not hard to see why we're struggling to maintain any level of consistency.