Completely agree that the club is run as two separate entities. I think Waggott was given or got the job on the basis he could boost income, get more blood out of the stone and reduce what they needed to put in. They've also never taken much, if any, interest in the health of the club itself hence why we get Ewood in the state it is, the pitch looking like non-league standard, and embarrassing efforts by Waggott to scrape together a few quid. Then they're happy to hire private jets to take the first team to Cardiff, give pointless new contracts to Sam Hart and Dominic Samuel and keep Ben Gladwin here because he's a nice lad. Makes no sense but then very little does.

I'm just glad we couldn't have fans at the ground, as it would have been an awful afternoon to be at Ewood. Poor weather, poor performance, poor result and 3000 Rovers fans scattered around two stands heading home fed up.

Its Club Cash but under a different name. Offer stuff worth buying and I'll spend some money.

I suppose the real question is whether the target is Mowbray's or the owners or both and whether it is fixed or flexible. He might have decided his own target is the top 6 but its meaningless if the owners aren't demanding it. Anyway, no doubt there will be the usual excuses including Travis and Dack being injured for half the season, which will ultimately get him off the hook either way.

We will always be less than 10 points off the top 6. Thats the Championship. Unless you are marooned in a relegation scrap you have a sniff of the play offs. There's absolutely no indication this manager has the ability to get us in there nor indeed keep us there and a top 6 slot guarantees nothing so shouldn't be treated as the Holy grail. Imagine if he did scrape 6th one season but we got slaughtered in the playoffs he'd be dining off that 'success' for years.

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If he wants a new contract he will get one. It might take the owners 6 months to sort out but they will do it without question. The question is whether Mowbray will want one. By then he'll have had 5 years and I firmly believe the owners will be into cost cutting mode by that point. I doubt he'd want to stick around for that part of our journey. Thats why change asap is needed because the likes of Armstrong, Elliott and Dack won't be here much longer. We need new ideas to make the most of them whilst we can and even when they go we need new ideas when it comes to replacing them.

I think it is funny how there are so many third parties, neutrals and rival clubs fans who seem to be under the impression that Mowbray is the best thing since sliced bread and that Rovers fans are deluded/unrealistic/clueless for suggesting a change is needed. Of course most of these buffoons don't watch Rovers with any regularity nor do they have any emotional investment in the club and are quite comfortable with us coasting along making up the numbers and being nice guys and the neutrals favourites. Usually they harp on about what great business we've done or how unlucky we are or what a good style of football we have. Of course all meaningless but just like when rival managers are heaping praise on us it is usually a sign that the opposition are quite happy with where we are and what we do. The point at which rivals and the top sides start to feel genuinely threatened by us and we employ a style and tactics to ruffle feathers and grind out results winning ugly and nasty at times is precisely the point at which these third parties, media people and rivals suddenly start calling us, complaining about us and moaning about us. I'll know then that we are in business. Remember Souness, Hughes and Allardyce didn't get many plaudits or pats on the back from rivals because they aggravated rivals. I see that Danny Cowley is looking for a job with him and his brother both doing punditry work today. I think we could do worse. Up and coming, recharged, fresh methods and ideas. Don't think he gets the credit he deserves for hauling Huddersfield to safety either. I'll always like him for dumping the dingles out of the cup the other year too. Sadly such an appointment is just too logical for this club. Stick with the same old and go nowhere because he's a nice man and we've a nice bunch of lads here. Oh and a few injuries too.

I fail to see what benefit there is to keeping him from here. We certainly aren't going up as we are, and won't be going down unless we have a collapse of epic proportions. So almost certainly in the Championship again next season with 4 months and half the fixtures still to play. If there was some semblance of a plan, or indication that Mowbray could learn from his mistakes then I might buy into the suggestion of him having next season, but does anyone who has watched us for the last 3 years see anything to suggest he can take that next step in the right direction? All the problems we have at present - recruitment, squad depth, ineffective performances, inconsistent results - have been trademarks of his management here. People at his age with his experience don't suddenly change their ways. What good does another 5 months of plodding and another summer making the same mistakes do?

We only flogged about 8000 last season. Since then we've had a pandemic, recession, price rises and still have mediocre Mowbray and Waggott running the show that most people are now thoroughly bored of. Our existing ST base is allegedly around 2500 which is horrendous in itself but can be explained away due to the restrictions. So yeah, no serious changes and I think 5000 is probably where we will end up.

Well a full house on the Mowbray bingo. A textbook Mowbray performance with just about every ingredient on display today. - Bright(ish) start to the game for the first 10-15 minutes but alas no goal to show for it - I said to my dad when the clock hit 15 that I'd have any bet going that we wouldn't score until the second half at the earliest, and probably wouldn't score all afternoon. - Rapid regression into mind-numbing rubbish for most of the game after the clock reached 15 minutes. - Bundles of possession but precious little to show for it yet conning viewers into thinking we are in control or dominating the game simply by having lots of passes. - Opposition that manages to contain our 'threats' with ease - Opposition that got forward on only a few occasions yet each time carved open our defence with relative ease and only needed a couple of passes to do so - they should have had two goals before they scored and shamefully allowing their player half the Ewood pitch to run with the ball unchallenged. - Once we fall behind the manager then proceeds to chuck on every attacker he has, presumably the logic being that because we need a goal throwing on everyone of an attacking instinct will increase our chances of scoring - only there seems to be no plan or strategy to this approach, it rarely works and we end up with a mess and a ridiculously imbalanced side. - Could still be playing now and I wouldn't have expected a goal - A squad bereft of options and ideas, created in no small part by the manager and his poor recruitment and failure to address important positions. - Usual injury enforced substitution - beyond a joke now that every single game we lose at least one player to injury - Disgraceful body language from the manager most of the afternoon, making a point of sitting down in his chair saying very little and he only started to do anything for the first part of the second half. Once he'd made his changes it was back to sitting down looking bored. I want to see the manager or his staff in the techical area encouraging and instructing the players - we don't see anything of Johnson or Lowe who only appear when the subs are getting ready and Venus seems to spend his time whinging at the 4th official (no problem with that normally but today it was needless and embarrassing). Compare to the opposition who have a raft of coaches communicating and barking instructions throughout. - You know you've been worn down with it when the highlight of the day would have been MK Dons winning and then that solace was taken away in the last minute. There's the full Mowbray set. You could be forgiven for thinking it is 2017 or 2018 but no it is 2021 and it is still groundhog day. Nothing has really changed and nothing will change.

Short term loans now, unless outstanding quality along the lines of what Villa got in their promotion season, are a waste of time and money. If there was a medium or long term plan we would be recruiting to address issues for beyond the next 4 months. Its a sticking plaster job yet the plaster comes off in May and the gaping wound is still there. Even worse when we lose Nyambe, Williams, Douglas and Bell. A new defence to build, likely no money and on it goes around in circles. "Lets see who he brings in" "New signings are coming" "Lets see how they settle in and how we start the season" "Player X is injured. Not Mowbray's fault" As for the owners backing him this window with loans don't make me laugh. Everton would pay for their lad to come here and play Championship football for 6 months. Ideal. Whatever it costs us will likely be covered by savings on outgoings.

There's no potential about it. We've already got half the squad out of contract in the summer and adding more loans now will only add to that. I'd rather the funds were diverted into renewals of contracts to reduce the massive rebuilding job they're going to have in the summer. I thought there was meant to be some sort of medium term plan here under Mowbray's stewardship. I dont think this indicates any sort of plan just a make do and mend job and then another one next summer through failing to keep players tied down.

Not been on for a couple of days and deliberately avoided the 'news' outlets as to our transfer activities but not suprised at all to see that we are now a third through the window and haven't brought anyone in. Lo and behold for all the bravado about the owners agreeing to back him in the window and him needing/wanting centre halves in asap we haven't got anyone and the only serious link appears to be attempts to borrow a teenager from Everton's academy until the end of the season. Absolutely pointless IMO. In our position it needs to be one of two routes from this point. You either add a few players to give you that final push into the top six (a few high calibre loans) or you accept you aren't going up under this setup and get one eye ready for next season. Quite what we hope to achieve by doing neither and borrowing development players for 5 months I don't know. More of Mowbray's baffling comments in the media where he accepts that our business will be short termism and seems to suggesting Preston have cash we don't have in their pursuit of Whiteman - quite why Mowbray is being asked questions about a player for Doncaster who Preston are supposedly signing and indeed why he is commenting on said player seems very strange, unprofessional and needless.

If this is the extent of Waggott's invention he's in the wrong job. He's already tried this with the embarrassing £10,000 prize draw if 10,000 season tickets sold. As if people were seriously going to pay hundreds of pounds for a season ticket to enter a draw that might not even happen if 10,000 wasn't reached. We need people running the club with creativity and bright ideas on how to grow the fanbase short and medium term. Instead we've off the hoof short term cash flow desperado stunts. As if anyone is going to go out of their way to spend hundreds in the club shop.

See I don't agree on this. Venkys might be willing and able to play the slow game and wait in the hope we eventually evolve into a promotion achieving side. They seem to have the cash reserves but little other of the ingredients needed - plan, interest, structure. But history under these owners would suggest that they move in cycles and the indicators would point towards us nearing the latter stages of the latest one. Sooner rather than later they may well give up on keeping our best players or backing the manager with competitive resources for signings or insist on sales to plug losses and then begins the slippery slope from the relative stability we have now. We know this because this is exactly what happened in year 3 of the Bowyer era after 2 years of propping up the squad and funding decent signings. If the above is a false alarm and they are happy to indefinitely retain our best players or invest all sale proceeds into new ones and keep stumping up £15-20 million per year then I'd be very pleasantly surprised. If I believed that we had the luxury of bundles of time on our side to incrementally improve and develop then I'd be less worried (though would still question the benefits of keeping a manager who won't change his approach). In the event I'm correct as above then I'd sooner move heaven and earth now to try and get promoted rather than go through another 2015-17 experience of slashing costs, watching the squad be dismantled and watch us slide back to League One. If that means making a ruthless yet calculated change so be it. I'd sooner do that and upset Mowbray but have a chance of promotion than do nothing and squander our best and possibly only chance.

A fortnight from now he will be using the transfer window to keep people onside. Wait and see if we can get a couple of new bodies in to help us. I'm sure if we get who we want we will be much stronger in the second half of the season. The new lad(s) need to settle in. Buys him January and February. So predictable.

The journalists will just repeat what Mowbray says ad infinitum without challenging or questioning him. Mowbray has found his excuse for our dreadful run of form and will now continue to throw it out in public whenever he can. Once Travis is back he will find something else to blame for his failings.

Mowbray back on his latest excuse for our abysmal run of form which is apparently all down to missing Lewis Travis and once he is back playing everything will be OK. Should keep trouble away until the end of January or beyond when Travis is match fit again. There's always an excuse and there'll always be an absence to explain it. Just a shame people accept this nonsense. He's got a plethora of midfield options all signed by himself. Of course Travis is a miss but this is the second transfer window where we've been able to replace him.

Does anyone know what the position is with I Follow subscriptions? When I look at the various subscription options the 'basic' package is supposedly free and includes match highlights and behind the scenes content, but obviously not live match coverage. I've tried to access this 'free' content however no matter what i do the only videos I can watch are the basic highlights/goal videos - I can't watch any extended highlights, interviews or behind the scenes content. It just doesn't seem to make sense. It then tries directing me to 'audio pass' which suggest you don't get video. Anyone had similar?

Emotion shouldn't come into it. Nor should doing things the cheapest or easiest way. I'm sick of us making decisions that affect our future based on them being nice blokes or good lads. I'd rather someone from the opposite side of the world who can drag us forward not languish in the lower leagues forever whilst giving chances to local lads or lower league managers. Small time mentality.

I predicted on Boxing Day that we'd seen the last of Trybull with his absence from the squad. I was surprised to see him back at Huddersfield but now with this injury who knows if or when he'll be back. My thoughts on his signing is that it was deemed necessary at the time as Travis had gone down with a serious injury until January and we all know about Evans' fitness so an extra body was brought in. I think Norwich were more than happy to let him come here and play so it was an easy and cheap loan job. With Travis coming back soon and Evans presumably not too far away (?) I suspect Trybull is probably seen as a sacrifice worth making to free up some wages for other reinforcements. I think he's steady away but another who hasn't really stood out and for one reason or another hasn't been able to put a good run of games together for us.

I honesty have no interest at all in the transfer window. Any incomings are likely to be temporary options and no matter who or what we sign the issues will remain under this manager as they have for 3 years.

Could do a lot worse. That he is likely to lead that rabble to yet another higher finish than us is one of the most stark illustrations of our state under Mowbray. What Neil would give for £10 million and wages like Mowbray has had for Ayala, Tosin etc. If we were ever in the industry of poaching managers from rival clubs I'd be testing the water for him or Rowett from Millwall. Both would improve us significantly and both would embrace the additional finance and stature we could provide. Reckon Neil would cost in the millions to get after he got a new deal last year after the West Brom interest. This lot won't pay for their next manager.

I want a job like Mowbray has. I try to imagine a situation where my employer invites me to a meeting, gives me a 3 year contract on very good wages, sends me off to the other side of the world to get on with it and has no interest in my performance or attainment of targets. I'm able to run things exactly as I want to even if it doesn't make sense or work and get to carry on even if loads of customers actively disapprove of me and my performance. All the while the supporters/customers are expected to 'like it or lump it' and get asked to pay more for the privilege whilst I can cart on regardless because I'm better than my predecessor from 4 years ago. It isn't the real world. It isn't acceptable of a way of operating in any line of work, let alone managing a professional football club employing hundreds of people and taking money off tens of thousands to operate.