Saying that, he was very good on loan at Burton last season apparently. Still, we need permanent bodies.

Agreed, teenagers in on loan have hardly worked out for us thus far (barring Chapman pre-injury) - if it was snapping him up at the end of his contract I would be far happier as he would be ours to nurture, develop and add value to.

This one. I dunno.

Thought someone before said he was out of contract having turned down a deal?

Still a big pull, they are still a Championship club in many way - probably straight back up just like us. A year in L1 then its back to normal with them but this time with no debt to pay so expect them to join the heavy spenders next season.

You know its a slow window when people are discussing Grange Hill!

DA! Unreal

Its been one of the best World Cups I have seen so how you can come up with an opinion like this without even watching hardly any of it is stupid. How can you expect others to respect your opinion on anything when you trot out crap like this?

Rodwell to Bolton - now that is pie in the sky. If he was willing to go to their wage level I am sure he would pop up somewhere else.

Did you see desire? I certainly didnt.

My theme of the WC so far is to watch different streams, as I do not want to wathc the usual suspects. And the stream i was watching, not sure who it is to be honest or where they are from but sounded American.Canadian, TSN. They were all mocking both us and Belgium for what looked like a testimonial in their eyes. it is hard to argue with them tbh.

There was no desire, from either team really but even more so from us. How you can say we had desire really astounds me.

Cheek looked good in his cameo in the first match but since then I have not really been impressed. He is direct but on one occasion tonight he had a chance to spread it wide on a counter and instead kept going inside only to lose it. I thought Ali was bad but if this guy is the one in his shadows, i guess we have little option.

Could be a big cornerstone of GS reign. We go on and do well and he is a genius, we go and lose against Columbia and there will be questions asked.

Not just a new team though - that team out there is still a very good team on paper, its just there was no desire, no nothing. The players had it in their heads that they are through and we will do better as runners up...im not so convinced. Our B team v their B team playing like they wanted to win would have been a different story.

Who brings on Welbeck with Kane/Sterling and the like on the bench if you are chasing a result?

No lack of effort...the last 15 minutes should tell you that. If it was a knockout game they would not be dallying around, Pickford smiling knocking it around the back four. There was not a desire to win that game...hence no effort.

I am actually very disappointed. We deserve to fck it up now against Columbia. Belgium deserve more credit - albeit being half-arsed about it too, they at least tried to win. There was no urgency from us, no intensity, not even a shot on target.

Was quite clear we were not even trying.

They all pretty much were but I like the delivery of that Arnold kid. Why are we making so many changes? Yeah Belgium did it too but I could understand a few changes but basically the whole line up? Deflates confidence, we face a tougher next opponent and also disgruntles supporters that paid a ton to watch the match.

Crazy cat, crazy cat...

My missus has got her 'Friends' dvds out while im watching this - might go join her.

No place for Graham in that lineup?

It would be a complete farce of a game and us as well as Belgium would not be looked at in a good light. If Belgium are practically throwing the tie, we should be the bigger man. Even if we tried to, its not like we can force them to score and beat us unless we embarassingly start trying to outscore them in own goals. Then what, we try get bookings to send us second on disciplinary? They would react to keep us behind - lets just have a big fight on the pitch. Sod all that, play to win - if they want to secure runners up let them have it while we stonk them 5-0 and boost our boys confidence no-end.

Adelukan's older brother was a bit of a wrongun too - so perhaps this is one to avoid.