Yes I know there's a considerable Hispanic population in Los Angeles ?. Apparently if you mention the name El Santo in Mexico his level of name recognition makes Dwayne Johnson look minor in comparison. Maybe there's some genius marketing NJPW certainly seen nothing marketing wise from ROH that explains that kind of crowd. I didn't think Jim Ross doing commentary on their US shows would have had this level of impact! ? Or Dave Meltzer breaking his star barrier for every Omega vs (who was it?) match. I watched one of them (first one I think) and didn't see why it merited 6 stars compared to some of those rated 5. Of course I haven't seen every single one besides those in WWE. I think the last one he rated 5 (in WWE) was Cena v Punk and didn't think it any better than that. Of course I've seen some of Ric Flair's stuff in the 80's. Pace is a bit too slow for my liking (in some cases it's too fast like a lot of this flippy independent stuff but fast paced brawling is usually good) but obviously things have changed since then. Not saying I have no interest in the matches but don't think any match on Raw should be longer than 12 minutes. That would only be the main event too if a match closed the show and even then it wouldn't always be 12 minutes. Admittedly if I was writing the show it would be 3 hours of 98/99 style (and to an extent 2000/01) mayhem and carnage that stuff never really got old for me. Better than watering stuff down that's for sure.

Sold out MSG correct? How many were comps? That said it's incredible that that many would attend even if all the tickets were free. Don't know how the hell they managed it will have to do some reading up on the whole thing. I think ECW's record (original obviously) might have been 6k or 7k. Was that non WWE 1993 show by any chance the Mexican promotion AAA? Sure I recall they drew a large crowd in Los Angeles around that time period.

I'm not sure how to explain a 36% rise and have no reason to try really. Still there's nothing that's put me on greater guard compared to this time last year or 2/3/4 years ago. Still there's obviously more basis in those stats than cherry picking two instances.

No there's people with barbed wire baseball bats round every corner and the hospital under siege with countless cases of GBH. All true and not based on a couple of sporadic outbreaks of violence which surely justifies the town being treated as some warzone. I'm a pretty cynical person but not without basis and the town really isn't some violent lawless desert. Seriously I don't think it's any less "safe" or "unsafe" for an adult (or any other age) than it's ever been in my lifetime. If you're scared to visit the area that's pretty pathetic. I wouldn't have any hesitation visiting London either (including last year) it's not like most people go there to strut around gang infested estates is it? If you want to talk about terrorism think about the odds of being caught up in an attack personally and show some common sense.

...and therefore something better left unsaid.

If ROVERS is in capitals (and therefore promotion emphasis) does that not lend some credence to my previous remarks on minimal acknowledgement of the opposition? ROVERS: League Cup R2 (subtitle date and location) would have been a better title. OK I'm a wannabe control freak/micro-manager (it's how I would insist on the club promoting games as far as FL/FA rules allow) which is quite understandable taking countless things into consideration but why promote such clubs in all due respect? Yeah it seems arrogant and it's not just L2 clubs but practically anyone barring a select few major clubs. Would say the same for the Championship fixtures so far this season. If Chris Sutton was still there out of special courtesy the situation would be different (to an extent) but he isn't. I could care less whether Lincoln has a cathedral to be honest what's that got to do with football or Rovers? I will add one fact though and that's "neither club is very popular in Shrewsbury in recent memory". ? Attendance: More than the the 2016 LC R2 game. NOTE-To be pedantic it's officially the "EFL Cup" now. Nothing against Carabao but it seems pretty stupid to say "Rovers won the Worthington Cup" in 2002 at this point.

The Attitude Era wasn't some staid, corporate, watered down environment. NXT to an extent could be seen as building more corporate puppets for control though not to the extent of what's being done with the women. There was no transition period and arguably no such era as "ruthless aggression" in my position which isn't to say it was bad. It was certainly far better than the current product which is just tiring to watch (and I usually don't) and stuff like the bloody "Hell in a Cell" logo is seen through by me in an instant. Wouldn't entirely rule it out (they can use fake blood not blading) and without wishing to seem like a vampire why do that sort of match without blood? I would rather scrap it than present something which is blatantly watered down (which they somehow achieved with an inferno match guess "first nosebleed" is the only thing still on the list) but I'll admit spectacle sometimes works out even without much substance. I don't mind cage matches but would rather they used the old "bar" cage than present watered down stuff and put all focus on winning by escape. There's no point doing regular mesh cage when the cell is around. Didn't Owens do a big fall from the top of a regular mesh cage recently as well? Benoit and Malenko drew sod all unless you count tons of negative publicity in the former's case. The Attitude Era also had certain intangibles which were so organic such as Vince turning heel on WWE television after 25+ years. Also there isn't as much stuff compared to them that hasn't been done though it's unfair to cast blame for that. Turn Cena heel? Not sure how they would explain it at this point and it's nothing like that. Hogan turning heel wasn't quite at Vince level (since they never really discussed turning Vince heel until shortly beforehand and mentioning his brief stint on Memphis Tv is a little pedantic albeit accurate) and what kind of background story do most wrestlers have now? It's not entirely their fault but it's less interesting than the background wrestlers had when WCW and before that territories etc were still around. While the WWE are certainly profitable it's not exactly seen as a "boom period" is it? I don't think wrestlers being so open on twitter, etc essentially hurts (though like Mick Foley I implore the Undertaker not to join twitter lol) but wrestling still has more emphasis on "in character" than most forms of entertainment. Are they still doing pink rope month? If it coincides with the cell show again can't they remove it for that one event lol? Nothing say hell like a pink rope! The only time a cage should have pink in is if somebody copies Bret Hart's ring gear.

No comment.

He wrestled under some other names as well before coming up with the Big Daddy idea. Really anything could be considered an update as far as in ring performance goes. Of course not all the wrestlers were like BD but obviously it's not gonna look like matches from the 60's and 70's. I imagine it's a form of "family safe" viewing probably with a lot of flippy floppy stuff and the usual brightly lit sets, etc. Obviously it's not gonna be barbed wire death matches on ITV but it's hardly "low rent" compared to "reality" shows with the main premise being who might sleep with each other. I did hear they used the "rounds system" that British Wrestling once used but not sure if that's been continued on the latest shows.

People still report on wrestling in this country at times as if younger people think about WOS. Most people would think about WWE now. WOS wrestling (they used to show repeats on wrestling channel) was boring and as for Big Daddy think it says more about the British public that he was ever popular. People moaned about Hogan in the 80's but bloody hell it was nothing on Big Daddy's scale for awful athleticism. He was also related to one of the promoter's and Giant Haystacks never was allowed to beat him. Obviously he had some ability to engage with the crowd but once again what does that say about the British public? Thing about the 70's and 80's is a lot of the Tv (albeit not speaking from perspective at the actual time) was overrated and there was a lot of rubbish. More boring perhaps than lowest common denominator rubbish but boring = rubbish. Granted some subjects are just very serious (hence why they are boring) but it's not good Tv. I didn't watch Summerslam but mostly read about the main event. 6 minutes is a bit too short for a PPV main event but of course many people didn't particularly want to see Reigns v Lesnar. Though the match itself (partly due to Stowman's involvement) sounds like they made it watchable. Lesnar's always watchable and Reigns isn't anywhere near as awful as some people think. If they want to talk about shoving corporate stuff down people's throats the women's stuff is worse.

...and as I pointed out in the PM Rovers fans apparently chanted about the death of a young Boring Name FC player several years ago.What Oldjam says is absolutely right. I don't like those chants but look how many people participated in that racist Coyle chant which strangely continued after he walked out on the club for Bolton. Some of the people involved in those chants are thick sheep whereas others have a brain but still get caught up that kind of in behaviour. Is it truly evil and malicious? I'm not so sure. What I'm tired of is cheap point scoring and for several people that's what this is. I do note that you have criticised the Walker Family before and should have acknowledged that. A lot of people however don't preferring to see it as boring and pointless but are quick to like posts that point out Boring Name FC fans being disrespectful. Let me ask which would Jack have been more bothered about? Would bet my life it wouldn't be those chants. Rovers fans probably won't chant about Mcilroy. Did Boring Name FC fans chant about Ronnie Clayton? I doubt it. Jack was an influential presence (understatement alert) in living memory for a far greater number of people. If Dyche dies suddenly bet some Rovers fans would chant about it. Of course then it would be "oh they chant about Jack that's the only reason we are doing this". Tedious. Now I can't say for sure but wouldn't a playoff final, promotion securing games be bigger than the early rounds of the Europa League? I don't really think Trelleborgs was one of the biggest games in past 50 years (even at the time) though obviously this club has been in more title battles and late stages of cup competitions in same period. Not to mention in the 90's most games had a sense of magnitude that came with the ambition of the period driven by an owner with high expectations. Boring Name FC losing to Watford (2 clubs likely to be midtable at best with FUP lessening impact of any possible takeover) not really high profile is it?

POINT SCORING TIME!!!! Time to use Jack as a point scoring card where Boring Name FC are involved but never mention his family.

Well I doubt Anderson (or most agents) ever saw Blackpool as a cash cow. Asked if there was any truth in Coyle links several days back. Told there isn't. So much for him being the only candidate. Somehow think he would have been appointed by now if he was.

...as Man United's propaganda machine shoves down the throat as if a British footballer of any repute could be allowed to play anywhere else. Why should I put it any other way? Actually what I should have said is washed up, selfish drunk who wasted a transplant and practically gets a state funeral for it.

If you look at Companies House it's not really seen much of a difference for a while now besides the 3-4 million they put in every so often. The debt is actually higher now than it is last summer though of course "debt" basically means whatever Venkys choose not to write off at this point. Sales wouldn't (and haven't) changed the debt balance but nothing significant there recently either.

Probably not. Maybe that's why they gave him practically nothing after selling the 2 best centre backs. Of course Mowbray's not spent enough yet to really make a full assessment.

It isn't.

Or just flippy flopping around with no rhyme or reason. Guess it depends which styles you prefer. If it was "Lucha Underground" (thought that's where Mysterio is though I heard he might return to WWE so yet another reason not to watch) or somewhere in Mexico suppose it's as advertised.

Nothing to do with those prats in Zurich at all? Seems like Fernandes has had enough of their interference. Of course that does not absolve some poor decision making but hardly Venkyesque regime is it?

I'm guessing his first name isn't Jack?

...and if he helps himself by not just accepting any old "creative" trash.

Unless Dack drinks himself to death not sure what the actual point of that post is.

Yeah I'm sure there isn't ulterior motive as to why he's seemingly included everything up to the Salford/Trafford border. ?. Ironic for Stuart to complain about parochial thinking and then he starts this thread.

...and a face transplant. People like Allardyce and Dyche have no marketing appeal.

You mean generating more income from Indian sponsorship (primarily) and exposure of Rovers within India which was promised? No haven't thought about it at all. ?. Relegation isn't the only excuse they were already defaulting on their promises including the Academy they were supposed to build. Certainly people knew Venkys wanted exposure for their core brand as well but you can have multiple mutual interests. Of course it certainly stopped their expansion here becoming known as a symbol for idiocy. They had intentions no doubt (genuine ones in this instance) having registered Venkys Xprs UK but according to Companies House that was "dissolved" (basically it was a registration and nothing else) some time ago.