Reassured? Don't you know Nixon getting this right (and any other reported signings even if seen as positive accquisitions) means Anderson's back in the fold? CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!! ?

Maybe a big cable car ride from the hill direct to your seat exclusively for Riverside season/matchday ticket holders!!! Technically to the turnstiles but hey creative license and marketing right?

Should point out there already is a restaurant (/bar) As for the Northchoke suggestion?x 1000000 EDIT-Should have added about 2000 more zeroes. What's the next suggestion a Venkys restaurant?

Don't give UEFA any more "fair play" ideas.

Iraq athletes still celebrating that lunatic Uday Hussein's death. Was P Neville commentating on this and Ronaldo's dive? Other day his nauseating "get up, get up" to some other player (can't remember who) bet he wouldn't have mentioned this. I would have thought cheating against Iran was beneath his dignity and by that I mean embarrassing on an ego level not integrity. ? Did they show that thrilling footage of people staring at screens in the VAR room again? They could at least have some humor and make it look like something of a Bond villain HQ with gigantic screens all over the place. Maybe some hot lava (as if there's any other kind)

Iran’s slogan on their team bus "One Nation, One Heartbeat, 80 Million People...even women."

Should add that my belief is the "safe standing" movement will succeed. I'm not sure what the proposed timescale is because I haven't followed the issue closely enough (it's not as if the general argument isn't widely known by now unless you live on Mars) so unsure whether it's 12 months, 24 months, etc but I see no reason why it should take longer than that. I'm pretty sure it's making major progress particularly with comparisons to the Bundesliga's safety record being just fine with the appropriate railings, etc. While I don't particularly care about standing myself (though maybe I would on occasion) can't see any reason whatsoever to object to it. I think 94% have been quoted in one poll as supporting it and I don't know why the other 6% have a problem it's not as if pro standing fans are proposing 100% capacity has to be non seated. Might be more likely though that any such section at Ewood will first and foremost be the BBE lower. Not sure what they would do with the DE (if/when it's opened again same as the BBE probably) though it would make sense to have the away section standing. Some seats remaining of course because some older people, etc probably won't want to stand for 90 mins. The JW lower (and certainly upper) will likely be entirely seated particularly with the "family section" being in the JW lower at the moment. The Riverside I'm genuinely unsure of what they might do so with seats/standing so that's partly why I (and as noted the club) believe it would make logical sense to wait.

I think someone said maintenance/repairs have been "cost cutting" areas for years even prior to Venkys buying the club. I wonder if they want to wait and see what happens with the "safe standing" movement before making any changes? That would make some logical sense before "modernising" the stand and installing padded seats or something. As for lack of rain cover is it really worth doing some of roof extension just so some people won't get a little wet? It would be cheaper to hand out those plastic covers or perhaps just advise people to wear a rainjacket if the weather's expected to be a little wet. I thought people say it's Southern people who are soft yet they bring up issues like this. I don't particularly like it when there's heavy wind AND rain blowing right in my face but a bigger roof wouldn't really do much to help with the former. I think the Riverside is fine in the centre certainly from a view standpoint. As I said in terms of modernising how much can you do really with the stand as it is? Padded seats, etc that's not the case around the vast majority of the stadium anyway. I still don't think a roof extension would be worth it. Some people of course advocate demolishing the whole stand if not quite demanding a "modern" replacement on the scale Jack planned (and the WFIT outright ignored as Williams actually admitted) and how much that cost? I think they would close the stand (as with the DE) before undergoing any substantial costs. Of course we really need to know what Waggott's vision of a modernised Riverside actually is. I'm not saying he's lying just he hasn't seemed to explain any specific ideas for it. There's easily enough rental office space in the other stands (and I don't even know if that's at full capacity) and the main club administrative areas. I don't really see how a 30 year old stand is outdated. Look how long the old Nuttall Street Stand and Riverside lasted. The Riverside in particular obviously was in a real state by the end (hence it's replacement) and safety issues based on what happened at Valley Parade too. Still it's not like they were falling down for most of the structures history.

It was a Premier League club and some fans seemed to think playing for England was the height of achievement. "Dunny for England" was playing for Rovers not good enough for some? Rovers were a Premier League club (and pretty damn established even taking the 2 year absence into account) you wouldn't have heard Liverpool fans chanting "Fowler for England" despite his limited number of appearances. People chanted it with Sutton of course but I guess any fanbase would have done the same after that whole England B/Hoddle fallout. Sutton regretted it but how could you justify picking Les Ferdinand ahead of him in 97-98 season? Maybe in 96-97 while Ferdinand was banging in goals at Newcastle but in 1998 it was the other way round. Didn't people question Hoddle picking Ferdinand because he happened to be at Spurs? Darren Anderton as well who initially in WC 98 was selected ahead of Beckham. Also it's more than fair to question Dunn accepting a callup from Eriksson. If he's the great local icon he claims to be then he should have refused or at the very least criticised Eriksson's behaviour towards the club (and Jack in particular) in 1997 and leading Jansen to believe he would be in 02 squad. I guess exaggerating his "hatred" of Boring Name FC (played for their youth didn't he because he hates them so much?) was more important than speaking up for Jack though. He even had to spin that into a story about turning them down for Rovers in the end as if that was a tough decision ?. People can say what they like about me impacted by years of mental/psychological abuse which never gets taken into account. That's not an exaggeration because I was right about the Walker family influencing the trustees + their neglect in general. In 1997 had I been an aspiring youth player (that's a VERY hypothetical scenario lol because my footballing "ability" is beyond non existent) there's no way in hell I would have represented Man United (something else I had to "justify" more and more after Jack died when nobody had any issue with my contempt for them before that) at any level even under 12s. Don't call me a liar. Admittedly I've seen some City/Liverpool fans say they would let their kids play for United youth and would have done the same themselves. I can't understand that logic at all. Hypothetically or otherwise if Man United express an interest in a young player other clubs would as well. Even if Man United made the first approach all you would have to do is send letters to every other top club (and even some average clubs) in the country saying "United want me can you take a look instead"? I even saw one story about a kid crying (think it was a City fan who's parents were also City fans) because Man United scouts had spotted them and they forced their kid to go and attend one of their youth sessions. Why didn't they just call up City or anyone else and tell them? Maybe it's a bit extreme to call that child abuse but never denied my contempt for Man United approaches psychotic levels at times. In all likelihood I wouldn't have represented Boring Name FC either because even then their boring name alone would have sent me to sleep and been detrimental to any enthusiasm. No wonder they haven't had more takeover interest though FUP lessens any appeal too. No doubt FUP and their paranoia over relegation caused the family to pressure the trustees more and more. Ultimately to the point their "extensive research" led them to sell to people who didn't even know what relegation was. I guess because of my pro takeover stance it's somehow hypocritical of me to have expected them to at least do some actual research and conduct an intensive questioning process. If not for me at least for the vast majority. Said I wasn't going to "justify" myself again and then I write responses like this. Anyone who says I can't help myself and rant too much you're probably right.

He played for England once didn't he? Did he even start the game? Big deal. I'm still convinced the U23s was all Johnson's good work (look I said he would fail at Oldham and that's what happened so don't blame me if I'm unconvinced about his impact on the U23s) and most fans couldn't give a toss about the U23s anyway. If so then Johnson would have had a louder cheer than Dunn wouldn't he during the introductions at the Oxford game? He milks that offside goal for all it's worth which wasn't all that much considering their next visit to Ewood resulted in a win. No doubt in Dunn's mind it's because he was subbed at 1-0 and Rovers would have won 8-0 had he stayed on the field. ?. Strange how his injuries never seemed to pop up before Boring Name FC games isn't it? Well aside from the one time but on that occasion he probably really was injured. I guess by "probably" that's an admission of no concrete proof but I'm not apologising for having suspicions on his convenient availability virtually every time the fixture came up. Derbyshire had excessive favortism too and he did nothing to dissuade it. Granted perhaps it's churlish to criticise someone for not complaining about excessive praise but I would have respected him more had he asked to earn such adulation. I'm not saying he should have asked the fans to abuse him or anything silly like that. I'm not Allardyce's biggest fan but it says a lot when you felt sorry for him feeling the need to "defend" himself for accepting a ridiculously excessive fee. I wonder if Jason Wilcox had been from Blackburn and not Bolton? Would he have had his detractors hassling him for years if he had been born a few miles further North? I don't think people cared about him being from Bolton specifically but had he been "more local" would he have had the unfair abuse (which started early in his career and never completely subsided) from some sections of the crowd? Dunn wanted to leave in 2003 (granted it's because of his ego clash with Souness more than anything particularly appealing about Birmingham) but he handed in a transfer request with Parkes in 99-2000 as well. Even then it seems he carried that aura of local boy entitlement.

Last time I checked their official website it didn't seem particularly well maintained overall never mind just Rovers issues. This reminds me of the rumour it was them (hardly surprising if they are high on suspect list is it?) had venkysout.com shut down recently. I think it was around the time of the Doncaster/Oxford games which seemed like convenient timing. I'll ask Duncan Miller about it again see if he's found out exactly what happened.

"He" would be Clotet, Derek Fazackerley and Robinson? EDIT-Oops I realise you meant "played in". Sod it I've looked at Wikipedia and he's never played for Oldham. As Ladyboys says it was the "Oxford forum" Jacknory meant not Oldham. 69 appearances for Oxford over 2 seasons and I'm not sure whether that includes cup appearances. Wikipedia only seems to show League apps in the stats for whatever reason.

Well I'm taking a guess here (as I can't be bothered looking) but my guess is Rothwell played for them at some point between his spells at Oxford and Man United's youth system. 40 appearances from the bench (if that's even accurate and I'm not criticising because I can't be bothered to look either) hardly suggests he's that injury prone. I've heard of bringing people back gradually but that would seem excessive.

Pablo Escobar's ghost still lingering probably...can't imagine how many pitch invasions there were in Colombia in the 80's, early 90's all those white lines...

It wasn't several years. How about you stop ignoring that point and quit embellishing/exaggerating beyond what I've admitted in 1st place. Someone getting tired of explaining themselves to ignorant people (who ignore their own faults when confronted with them) isn't quite the same as outright ignoring. As I've said on Rothwell thread in greater detail I'm done "explaining" myself and you don't even like my long posts anyway so why moan about me "ignoring" it? Like it or lump it. Or accept it. Most people have. Speaking of "ignoring" by the way Dunn's been overheard in past badmouthing Rovers fans pretty much because he felt he was beyond criticism. So much for me not saying things to people's faces (though if absolutely cornered I would and I have at least if you count my meeting with Williams years ago) but I've never claimed to be one of the great orators of history.

Oh yeah that's the most despicable thing imaginable isn't it having horizons and ambitions beyond East Lancashire? That's been one of the digs at me for years certainly after Jack died though like everything else it really started with me seeing right through the (Walker family influenced) trustees and the whole "domino effect" of criticism/frustration that caused which instigated so many of the other arguments including this one. Tell me when Jack Walker mentioned them while he was owner? I can't remember one time. What 30 years under Blackburnian control are you talking about exactly? The club hasn't been under control of a Blackburnian for 18 years (don't even dare call the trustees that and the people running the club day to day were not locals either) though prior to that I'm sure it was always people with local interests/ties. Bill Fox certainly was and I'm pretty damn sure Bancroft, Keighley were as well as was Cotton decades before that. Of course that's no different to the vast majority of clubs in the top couple of leagues at least. The majority had local ownership up until the past couple of decades. How have they bettered Rovers in any way? What because of 2 years where they haven't been relegated from the EPL? Are you that much of a baby that you can't take one of their fans trying to wind you up? I wouldn't even bother to laugh in their face never mind get worked up about it. Seriously your self esteem is that low that you can't take some mockery from a club that's done F all compared to this one during most of their lifes? There's not one thing they can mock Rovers for and you don't even need to make up childish nonsense to mock them. Their boring name alone is enough. I guess some of them chant tasteless stuff about Jack but really would he have cared about that more than some of the other stuff that's happened with his family, etc? I doubt it would have even hit his radar. Sure you will come up with the usual retort (which you only know about to begin with based on what I've said yet embellish and make out as if it was so much more) but some people said I wasn't a "real fan" before that anyway. Especially in summer 2011 as I recall all too painfully. So what else is new? Look I'm sticking around (and damn sure won't be going anywhere else and even during vast majority of my "sitout period" so to speak I didn't anyway) but really do have to ask myself why I post on here. I'm done defending and explaining myself especially when others won't hold themselves to account for anything. I'm not the bad guy and barring a couple of notable exceptions (not you JAL for the record) neither are most people on here. Venkys and the WFIT (plus Anderson, Kean, etc) are the true bad guys over the past 18 years. Boring Name FC have only been "above" Rovers because of Venkys anyway. Rovers were already above them before Jack bought the club. It damn sure wasn't Jack's fault for instance when they nearly lost their football league status he wasn't even Rovers owner then. They didn't reach the EPL in the 1990's that had sod all to do with Jack either. We will never know what may have happened otherwise will we (well winning the EPL in all likelihood wouldn't have happened but promotion might have) so what's the point of discussing it?

There's worse things resolved by so called "fair play"

Yet outperforming clubs like Boring Name FC is your height of ambition? I have big questions over Venkys' ambitions (and certainly trust worthiness) enough as it is but don't contradict yourself. Question it all you want but did you say same thing in the EPL when the club had to take people like Simpson on loan? How the hell he has a title medal is beyond comprehension. In the Championship I can see some logic in loan signings compared to being in the EPL. If by "associates" you mean Anderson aren't you (and the few others who still claim he's involved at least when it suits them) tired of spinning that old yarn?

You're making it sound like it's something only Venkys have introduced.

...and how many of the last 18 seasons have featured loan signings? There were even a few when Jack was here. Perhaps that was more to cover injuries (Witschge certainly was and Marcolin probably as well given the ridiculous amount of injuries that season) but still...

When someone makes comments about "injury proneness" it's normally taken at face value given it's so easy to check. Surely whoever said this must have known someone would take a look at his stats? Evidently injury proneness isn't a part of his background to be concerned about. Mulgrew proved last season anyway that players can overcome such problems though obviously his ability was more widely known. One assessment I got was "OK but a bit lightweight". Perhaps someone else heard similar views and assumed it meant injury prone. Not necessarily.

Well yes I did manage to deduce that information.

OK but just to point out if "we" means you're including myself (though noted you're probably speaking for most on here) I don't particularly care who wins the thing. Maybe a slight preference if certain people don't but not really something keeping me awake at night. In 1998 I did but that's 20 years ago and in 2002 I was too angry at Eriksson lying to Jansen (as if he hadn't lied to Rovers related people enough already) to give a toss though my interest was probably already on the wane anyway. I've never really liked most of the players who have featured in England's squads. Don't even know why I'm posting so much to be honest haven't even watched the game. If England reach the final (and it's not implausible) I'll say the exact same thing. Guess I'm a lousy patriot.

Well at least you won't have to worry about that game unless you're concerned about who 2nd round opponents could be (illogical given it's likely some major teams would have to be beaten at some point)

Is it one of those christenings where the parents never set foot in a church for years afterwards? If so should have just stayed at home.