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People should probably be more interested in how Ian B's legal issues have progressed (if at all) than Ian C's previous/present directorships. Thread from this past November detailing his situation. As for Blackpool it's like I've said before. Belokon was the major catalyst for this change as much as some of their fans might claim credit. Of course this situation couldn't have happened at Ewood because Venkys own virtually 100%. If the club returns to the Premier League (under their ownership) and Venkys did what the Oystons have what's there to stop them? Another useless committee? ?. I'm not saying Venkys will definitely do that in such a scenario but who knows? Attempts to predict their thinking is difficult whether you have let your guard down based on recent activities or not.

Yeah it's probably an understatement.

Sums up the level of hatred and spite the Walkers feel towards club and fans.

He owned it. The Walker trust never did. Matthewman "resigned" in 2017 but that's due to status as a tax exile. Same reason Jack Walker was never officially a director. Shortly after Jack died. How convenient. Obviously the Matthewmans used their manipulative influence over the trustees to cut this deal. Matthewman didn't own Northchoke until 2012 but it's no coincidence that Matthewman's friends (that pompous oaf Bancroft and Howarth) received the catering contract shortly after Jack died. The hotel has lost money (I don't know about that cafe near the cathedral) but considering Bancroft's delusions Matthewman evidently saw it as some kind of status symbol being a "manor" and all. Something to mention at the racecourse and pheasant shoots. Put yourself into the mind of typical psuedo upper class. I'm sure the club were unable (without any legal issues) to cut the contract sooner. I'm sure that Northchoke's contract was part of the sale conditions in 2010. Matthewman wasn't owner then (made his "investment" in 2012) but I'm sure he used his (and the rest of his families) extensive influence over the trustees to cut his mates a deal. Obviously there wasn't the same influence here besides Bancroft being able to keep his job.

Anyone other than his family would be a bonus.

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Haven't followed Sheffield Wednesday's position closely enough (probably because some owners can make mistakes which are misguided rather than ludicrous or outright antagonistic especially Blackpool) but owner looking to sell. Sick and tired of FUP by the sounds of it. UEFA...the biggest European pandemic since Spanish Flu. https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/breaking-sheffield-wednesday-chairman-dejphon-chansiri-puts-the-owls-up-for-sale-1-9501774

...and then people wonder why Kean/Anderson had no problem leeching off a football club.

Should have postponed at the last minute. ?

I guess it's rich coming from me to point this out but that poll will just create argument. Which in turn often leads to resentment. Those who are hostile are more entitled to be angry with the opposing view though not the other way round. When people have suffered unjustly they want people to feel their pain not throw it back in their face. Or be hypocritical which sometimes is even worse.

Speaking of Henchoz he was Berg's replacement. Younger, lower fee and while Berg didn't exactly end his playing career in obscurity look who lasted longer. As it happens Henchoz wasn't exactly unknown to Man United either but he chose to join Rovers and his former international manager Hodgson. Man United fans go on about Shearer he wasn't the only one who chose Rovers (in 1992 anyway and unlike Dalglish at that point Ferguson hadn't even won a league title talk about arrogance) over Man United. Sutton did. Donis did (for what that's worth)

He was bitter about it 19 years later never mind 3.

You don't even have a say on Trump anyway. You're not American (or Russian ?). Neither should people from the UK expect to have any say on how the US govern themselves besides international relationships (and I prefer having the US as an ally) anyway. Not on domestic issues like gun regulations, etc anyway the UK government shouldn't even debate that it's nothing to do with this country. I think those who are anti-Venkys can just take certain steps. Avoid the main entrance, etc for instance which in all likelihood would be the closest opportunity to interact (or throw another snowball). If you're want to yell abuse from the stands that's only gonna go so far anyway if people won't join in. Of course if you stand at the JW entrance and yell abuse some clown will probably tell you off and make you wonder if it was worth bothering.

Guess it helps when you're unbeaten at home (until 2 months ago anyway) for over a year. People have let their guard down. Even some of those who refuse to forgive have to an extent. Should people always be told for their own good? Or is part of the learning process letting people make mistakes? Not in this case it's not.

Dalglish should be grateful that Jack refused and admit he was right. I don't think Ripley was signed as 2nd choice to Thomas was he?

Well if people didn't know before they definitely did when Dalglish chose to be so petty in his book about it. Even though Thomas did nothing remarkable in the intervening years. I think it's pretty telling that Jack let Berg leave approaching 30. To Man United of all places after what happened with Shearer the previous summer. Have to say who else offered that money? Chelsea spent 5 million on Le Saux but their muscle wasn't such that they were gonna splash out similar figures for another defender. Arsenal's defensive platform was notorious. Liverpool were a defensive mess and didn't sort out the problem until Houllier signed Hyypia/Henchoz and Carragher's emergence. I don't know why Newcastle didn't make an offer (considering Dalglish signed Berg here) but who else was there? A few continental clubs? Tottenham perhaps? Of course Hodgson would have had his say as well. Berg didn't whine like Le Saux did before making his exit hence why he didn't get the same hostile reception. People will mention Gale as a counter to this argument probably. Gale was a free transfer and cover for those ahead of him.

Then stop reciting this BS. It was brainwashing at the time and it's brainwashing now.

Enough of this damn myth. It's insulting nonsense. Look at what happened to WBA last season (must be because Finn wasn't there that must be the reason right?) it was always one (more) bad appointment away from a relegation. There was nothing masterful about any of the appointments. Hughes was a risk...it worked. Ince was a risk...it didn't. Allardyce was just basic logic under the circumstances BUT he tried to leave and would have tried again. Sick of the "never would have been relegated" narrative and everything would all be pots of gold and pretty rainbows if Venkys hadn't shown up. It was a club with trustees acting on the whims of a neglectful/spiteful family. A club which did such exhaustive research on the sale process that they didn't even know Venkys had no idea what relegation was. Some people are so naive. Anyone who forgives them is just begging to be stabbed in the back again. Forget about thanking someone for driving you to the hospital after stabbing you in the face. In this case it's all of that, getting discharged and being stabbed again. Maybe it's not healthy to be as paranoid as me (to an extent) but professional conmen should look to move to this area. They will thrive here.

I guess this will annoy people but it's probably both in some cases. The last time they showed up of course was for Liz Windsor's visit. Could anything have summed them up more than that? If you're already hostile towards them can't imagine seeing their faces will change anything. I don't think any visit will have a particularly detrimental effect either. Certainly not where the players/management are concerned. People used to feel they were vindictive in retaliation because of the negative reception they had. Unless they are deluded enough to believe everybody has forgiven them that shouldn't be a factor at this point either. Though with people you can't trust who knows? Tomphil mentioned how Balaji's son may have increasing influence. Maybe he's the only one who could get through to his Father, Aunt, etc. after the 2nd relegation It's not beyond the realms of possibility is it? You could ask "well wouldn't he have gotten through to them sooner?" but this is Venkys we are talking about.

I guess Bolton's problems aren't his fault (except for the handicap the team suffers whenever he's on the field) but the man's a plague. Wherever he goes misery isn't far behind.

Well Alan's standing by the info he's been given. As is Iles presumably. Anderson's even moaning about the ratings Iles has given players lately.

It's more than a hint. I guess people will say "well what do you expect oil money?" and assumes anything short of a dream takeover would have it's limits FUP or not. Maybe so but it's not just about that. It's about the principle and I'm not going to have what Jack did labelled as cheating. It's a slur on his memory.

Guess so though it might be another 15 years until he visits again.

Hypothetically if something happened to Balaji tomorrow the power could fall to Jagdish. I'm certainly not convinced "Madame" and third wheel are as interested. Once again people shouldn't always judge people on their families. It would be ironic wouldn't it if Jagdish was to Balaji what Jack (to an extent) was to Howard. Of course compared to Howard pretty much anyone on the planet could be considered an improvement so that's not saying much.

The only way anyone should feel the slightest trust is if they write off the loans.