Darrenbot

its not how you start a tournament that people will remember in years to come its how you finish.Argies finishing it quite well atm

In the next match thread can we all post that were going to get a good beating,it worked in this one.

Get the green things out of there for a start,horrible food sprouts

One of the best players in the league at Leicester,give him a chance at a City or a Liverpool and he'll show how good he can be.Southgate has got away with no criticism with not playing him because all the journalists are arsekissing him as they don't want the access that he gives to the team taken away if he is replaced.He was fit to play by the end of the group stage so the he wasn't fit enough line doesn't hold up

With a better GK we might have won that world cup.Shilton was well past his best and got nowhere near their pens.

Didn't watch the semi finals,just couldn't get up for them after England's exit.Should be a good final so will watch that,France have the better team but it'll probably feel like an Argentina home game,i think it'll go to extra time and wouldn't count out a Penalty shootout to decide the winner

Croatia 2-1 Morocco France 2-2 Argentina

Didn't you say you wanted Southgate to stay on? Isn't it the managers job to install a winning mentality yet he's struggled in the biggest games to get that into the players.

He handballed a goal,no different from a player diving to win a pen,he had a drug problem not the first and definitely not the last footballer to have but he could still produce magic on the pitch

I feel like i'm Mowbray,great first half of the tournament but i'm now in a death spiral

You have to hope its too early for Kompany to take the Belgium job.Has he said anything about the interest in him taking it if asked?

One of yes but the best,it's a no from me.You got the right country but the wrong player.

He has no defence,it was a stupid statement at the time and looks even more stupid now

I have come to the view that JDT is a dud manager but saying that i would give him the Jan window and the rest of the season to change my mind. Firstly next time we go 1-0 make me start to believe we can still get back in the game,secondly show that you can see we haven;t got the players to be playing it out from the back.try something different once in a while, Show you can set teams up to play different ways,if you only play one way you aren't going to get far in the management game.

How do you know the next manager wouldn't have a bond too,they're big men i'm sure they can handle a new guy in place,i wouldn't trust the FA to pick a new man though,they only chose Southgate because he was a safe bet after Allardyce. The manager doesnt have to be English imo were trying to win cups not be patriotic. If Saka really has to be subbed it wouldn't have been Mount who isn't good enough to be in the squad imo or Sterling whos just had a traumatic week and who cant have been 100% ready to play,You need a goal get the inform player on Rashford or one of the best performers in the Prem this season Maddison on.

By saying not much to beat I was meaning the results in the tournaments not the Managers.I would love to be wrong and see him lifting a trophy if he stays.

Argentina 1-1 Croatia France 3-0 Morocco

If we had a clear replacement i'd definitely say yes.He's had 3 tournaments to win one,yes he's done better than anyone else the last 20/30 years but there wasn't much to beat. If i was the FA i'd seriously have a look who's out there to replace him.He's done some good things like brought the team together as one,no more cliques but also he's does stuff like taking Saka off when he was having one of his best games for England.I don't agree with Chaddy's excuse that he was shattered,he's 21 he ain't 40. Southgate is a great guy but for me he's had his go.

The only point i got was the one i'd rather not have got right

The people including me saying 2 years ago that mowbray should have gone were right,he did nothing to prove they were wrong in wanting him gone,maybe they're once again right with Southgate

He'll be here for 3 years while we flirt with playoffs but end up 8-12th each season then he'll leave for a Greek or a Turkish side that non of us have heard of or could spell then he'll be replaced and we'll go through it all again with a new manager stuck in the championship while the debt builds up,what a lot to look forward too

0 for 3 so far is his record

He's had 3 tournaments and failed,we love to award failure in this country,oh but we got so far in the 3 tournaments they will say,the mentality should be you dont win after more than 1 world cup try you leave and give someone else a go.

I think i want the Argies to win now,just to piss Piers Morgan off that Messi will have won one and Ronaldo won't

What gets me is France a country with a tinpot league and who half of them prefer Rugby to football are going to win a second World cup in a row while we a country that lives and dies with football are stuck waiting until at least 60 years since we won it.