First off this is not aimed at you. Does one make amends for destroying our club (and this is what they have done) by writing a letter? Does that help return us to where we were, where Jack took us and the position and league that enticed them in, in the first place? No it doesn't. Does servicing the debt that their leadership has created make amends? No it doesn't, it's just doing the absolute minimum to keep us afloat or treading water in the position that their ownership has taken us. From day dot we have heard nothing but words, not one mega signing promised ever happened, every saleable asset has been sold as soon as possible and now even the infrastructure that Jack built is being flogged, and all we get are words, and words not even written by them, or that matter, such as sorry. You make amends by doing what is needed to put matters right, by doing what is asked of you, no matter what, no matter how hard. And even if not possible you try to do it, at the very least. If they truly wanted to make amends, then do a Jack, a Mansor, think big, bring in proven quality staff at all levels, spend money, ask your mates to sponsor us, hell give them the money and do it that way. Try and take us back where they found us, attempt to rectify their mistakes, right their wrongs, but all we get are words. Actions speak louder than any words and until we get actions that reflect their apologetic words and demonstrate they are actually trying to make amends, then they are nothing but hollow, empty words, and no-one every achieved in anything in sport with just words. Show us you actually mean what you say Venky's and until that day, until the day you do what we all ask, take your words and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

I would, it would add some quality to it.

I can understand why you came to that conclusion, however I read the other day they had almost doubled there initial worth from 3billion to 5. So in one business they succeed but with us it is failure after failure after failure. I find it very strange, business is business, no matter the context and yet they constantly get it wrong with rovers and for over a decade now. It doesn't stack up you cannot keep giving them the benefit of doubt after 10+ season, asset striping was claimed early on and when their whole tenure is considered that is exactly what has happened. We may not understand what they get or how they get it, but somehow they clearly do benefit.

Is that not an assumption? How do we know it wasn't Venkys? They have been the one constant in our demise......

Everything makes perfect sense now the reason we've been waiting

Why is anyone surprised? The guy makes it up as he goes along in every aspect. Not one word that comes out of his mouth can be trusted, not one. Even Coyle talked more sense and prepared better and that says it all. The guys a complete idiot and he's calling the shots from top to toe. We are in for one very hard and demoralising season and next will be more of the same, as we will just have kids at this rate. I'm actually tempted to email bet365 to see what odds they will give me on league 2 at the end of next season. It has to change soon as even the loons must know we're screwed. He berates us for being negative to the younger players and then states he's shouting at them as it was ok when he was a kid. Laughable.

But TM is still an awful manager 😂 I agree we have BB and SG, both are meant to be strikers and McBride looks alright (based on preseason). We need better quality elsewhere. I'd be after a CB and a CM and if we're lucky some pennies too. Newcastle can go jump for their 40% profit (assuming player's don't count)

Mowbray man in IE worked together before and Glynn out. Mmm TM said it's about the connection, so I'll wager Chamberlain and TM didn't see eye to eye. Pish poor Kaminski was a cracking find and who cares if they don't get on, as long as they can be adults and work together. TM clearly struggles with differing opinions/people as appears evident with player's too. Come Barry hurry up and sack the mong.

I'd be all over that too, Obafemi would add great competition to Nyambe at RB.

You should check the dack thread mate, I doubt he's running these days haha

Can we play 2 keeper's?

Awesome the XG premier league here we come 👍

TM would like that, means he can spend the rest of the season sleeping in the dugout. 5000 fans and 6500 cardboard cutouts haha.

1) No. 1st time I see him, hopefully Saturday. 2) No. See above. 3) Whoever scores the goal that keeps us up. 4) 20th 5) Fulham.

Certainty and football walk different paths...

So fans shouldn't voice their opinion and should just sit there and watch the team go down?

That's a very very high salary for an assistant in league 2, especially given Salford get average gate's of 3000.

Why is it warped? He had the opportunities to keep us up and if not hired to achieve that, then why was he hired? To take us down?

It's been nothing but sinister since day one. Jerome, record contract pay-offs, etc etc. Bail now before it comes to fruition and they are exposed. They have raped our club of almost everything it ever was and we even owe them money for the pleasure of it all. I hope reform comes to football, it is sorely needed.

Did he really say that? More likely TM and co. are just poor coaches, who struggle to get the message across. Playing in a three is hardly rocket science and having endured listening to TM communicate over the last several years, I can imagine his directions within sessions are nothing short of confusing.

Trouble is he survived 2 wins in 17, I will hazard a guess he will be here until it's too late to save us. If they do sack him, they'll appoint yet another 🐒 and we'll be starring down the barrel of another relegation and this time we may not return.

TMs blue and white army was sung in the Leeds match, indicating some fans may still support him. Very worrying.

Yes you can, you just have to change the goals. For example, TM aims to be the most contradictory manager in football. And at that he is a clear winner 👍

We haven't been forward thinking in 11 years and won't be till the shisters depart and the shenanigans end. Same as it ever was, einsteins definition applies, doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results. Madness. I hope there are 3 worse teams than us this season as once AA leaves we will struggle. BB could depart too 12 months left, high stock and no new contract in sight. We desperately need captain mannering.

I will need to be to cope hahaha.