It would seem to be the common concensus that if Eustace keeps us up, he'll have worked wonders.

Looks like all the English experts off the telly have fooked off on holiday, just when the country is looking for someone to put their hand up.

So long Gareth, you've left a high bar for the next one. Without doubt it should be Lineker, he played for and captained his country, and apparently knows everything. Laughing boy can be his assistant, Gary Neville can brew up and Agbonlahore can help out with the press relations,despite being thick as mince. Can't go wrong there.

Thinking that myself, he was a right handful though

The top and bottom of it is, that it's a lot easier for grown adults to put it down to luck, rather than accept he's done a whole lot better than they ever thought he would.

It's a fair point, does it work is the question I suppose. We have a tournament every 2 years, my point was that if reaching finals isn't enough, then we'd have a manager biannually unless we actually win one. If and when Southgate leaves, he leaves an incredibly high bar.

You're going to get through a lorra lorra managers if winning is the one and only criteria.

Only to those that doubt it. Why would those doubting it, overrule those that don't doubt it?

I agree, but expecting it and getting it are 2 different things. I could have said finals, but I was going easy on the new bloke.

Semi finals are the absolute minimum now, that's the bar he's set.

Good assessment, that's the worry.

Anyone can doubt whatever they want, that's up to them,it is a discussion forum. To me, if we win tonight then the evidence is there to see,i don't really see what grounds anyone could doubt it, enlighten me.

It's just my opinion, some will agree, others won't. I can't answer for other people, can you? I was just using the hard evidence to form that opinion.

Because of the higher sell on percentage, Rovers will more than likely end up with more for Wharton than Brum got for Bellingham. Like the Raya deal, it will probably end up being a good one for Rovers, I say probably as long as Palace get a fee if/when he goes.

Without doubt

Dad

Ferguson is United's best manager of all time. England are one win away from Southgate being, without a doubt, the best England manager of all time. He's already a close second having got us to more finals then every other manager combined.

No doubt. Brilliant game of rugby league that, even though Saints lost.

A lot of people, especially the "experts" on TV and radio have said he's been lucky. There's no shortage of people trying to reduce his management down to luck. It's a lot easier to say it's been dismal football and saying it's all down to luck, than admit they were wrong and accept what a brilliant job he's done.

Has he proved you wrong by getting to two finals?

Your theory has run out of legs. It isn't me struggling.

World Cup quarter final World Cup semi final Two Euro finals, one to be decided First final on foreign soil As an England International manager, his record is unprecedented compared to what he followed over the last 50 odd years. Let's see if the next 5 combined get anywhere near, then we'll assess your reply.

It isn't logical at all, being drawn out of a bag every round comes down to luck. England's route is down to results, every team had the chance to progress. Spain look the best team in the competition, are we "unlucky" to be playing them in the final?

Thanks, the path is pre determined.

How is not proceeding as expected lucky on England? The draw had us in the same half, France messed up, England didn't. The path is pre determined, it's the results which place teams in each relevant fixture. Nothing to do with luck,they weren't pulled out of a hat, you're getting luck confused with the consequence of losing games.