bluebruce

I just wondered something. When Harvey Elliott plays his first game for us, he will have played for two Premiership-winning clubs at the tender age of 17. Will he be the youngest player to have done that? If so, could you extend that to English top-flight and not just Premiership? I'm guessing not on the latter, as just from my memory, Rekeem Harper came to us at 17 and WBA have been English champions before. Dunno who was younger in days though.

The / signifies 'a choice between'

I know he had committed. As I said in my post, he didnt look to have over committed and like he still had time to adjust. I could do with seeing the behind the goal view again really.

Can someone tell me if I'm imagining things here, because I didn't think it at the time, but having just watched the highlights, Kaminski looks awfully slow to react to the deflection. He doesn't seem to have overcommitted himself to going the other way and I dunno, it just looked like he had time to react and make a fist of stopping it. Maybe it's just the angle the highlight is at.

Sounds a bit Evans-ish

Ultra defensive or not, they managed 15 shots to our 6.

Not particularly important but anyone know why they are mowing the pitch after the game?

We may well be better suited to that game than this one tbh. Which is in itself something that needs to change.

Thing is, the really hard-working battling type just isn't the type of player he is. And I accept that, for now. Where he upset me today was in the areas he is supposed to be good! Sloppy passing, poor touch, no clever balls to unlock the defence. Plus the usual physical shortcomings of pace and strength. It's the worst I've seen him play. He won't be seeing much more game time this season if he doesn't step up considerably from that.

Yep, I put together the stats to show it last season some time around Dec or Jan I believe and showed how much worse we do when we control possession. I need to update the data to show it again but not got round to it. Anecdotally though, I've been paying attention to it and I know the picture hasn't changed.

Well..... you won't be trudging back up the hill in the rain anyway.

We had 61 percent possession. Forest had 15 shots and 4 on target, we had 6 and 2 on target. We have to invite teams onto us that come to defend instead of trying to pass around the edge of the area all game, it simply doesn't work for us. We are better on the counter, and harrying teams that are passing it around at the back.

I thought we looked a bit fatigued in the Cardiff game, understandable given the prior intensity. But I thought the break would fix that and we still look less energetic than at the start of the season. Two good bodies behind the ball defensive m efforts from the opposition haven't helped though.

Well! That's just fucking...really good of him actually. Now I feel bad for mocking.

Fucking hell, who is this bloke with a pink mop on his head?

Created bugger all of worth today.

Bit extreme. League One he needs to go to.

Think TM lost patience with him at the same point as me. As soon as I said take him off he did, thank fuck.

Ffs, Buckley is having a stinker today. We needed Holtby.

The side passing approach is one I've always been highly critical of. This might be why I'm not impressed by him and others are.

Expect we would have been paying a lot more for them a week ago. It's annoying but it's how the window works.

As I read that he had an awful touch and failed to control it. I've seen enough of him now to say, he doesn't impress me and I don't see what the fuss is. He does good stuff sometimes for sure but I think some way over hype it when he does. I'm not writing him off of course, he is young, but I'm just not seeing anything special. Needs a lower league loan with regular football.

Struggling to understand why the bench has both Carter and Wharton. I know there are injuries etc and the new guys have only just arrived, but surely there are better options than doing that. One of the newbies in another position has to be fit enough for the bench, or a youth player in another role to vary our options. It's very unlikely we will need to bring off both CBs!! (Watch it bloody happen now) Obviously the more worrying part of today's squad is the midfield. Hope Evans' injury issues haven't affected his readiness, and that Buckley steps up to the plate. It looks lacking in mobility with Rothwell out.

Might have been kept quiet, and whoever said it on here just got lucky hearing it from a little birdy. We will find out very shortly when the teams are announced anyway.

I agree with Hoochie, the longer he stays and excels for us, the more their heartbreak will go on. Then we can sell him for ludicrous money when he's like, 24