38 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

And that’s all fine, I’m just like you.

However, unlike you, I also appreciate that fanbases are made up of many different types of fans, not everyone is a hardcore supporter, some have a much more transactional, ‘take it or leave it’ approach to fandom - and that’s why the club needs exciting appointments, reasonable pricing, to be a club giving the  impression of having the slightest clue of what it’s doing if you want to attract as many supporters through the gate as possible.

We need said excitement and proactive stewardship as we won’t be a Championship club much longer if it’s just me, you, Birdy and Chaddy rattling around Ewood.

I’ll bring up my party piece again; John Williams was told on his first day by the board, in the halcyon days of the 90s no less, with booming crowds -  ‘we have 8,000 fans’. He knew a small core will always come, you have to fight bloody hard for the rest… he did, this lot haven’t ever bothered to start, and look at the result.

Some good points, and yes we needed to get the season tickets at more reasonable prices, to entice the doubters, but my main gripe is fans on here saying they might give it a miss because of the calibre of candidates, when no one has a clue who these supposedly 3 candidates are, folk just going off ITK on here, even most of the journalists haven’t a clue and like I said whoever gets it we won’t know if it’s a success until well into the season.

26 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

Totally disagree. This idea of blind loyalty is so infutiating for any normal person who purchases a product based on its quality and value for money.  Okay, a football club is somewhat different because we are hugely nostalgic about loving the club our entire life, but ultimately if that club you pay to be part of is no longer representing the values you hold dear or doesn't even consider the feeling of complete detachment of its valuable stakeholders, then you can choose to walk away as many thousands already have over the past 11 years. 

The superfan guff does nothing other than confirm you have an over inflated opinion of yourself as some super Rovers fan, and a lack of imagination for what else you'd do every second Saturday.  It also assists in justifying every poor decision Waggott and the rest of the rabble make. 

A joke appointment would make a  Rovers ST even less palatable than the previous decade, make no mistake. 

Totally disagree, like you said supporting a football club is very different to everything else, it’s in the blood, all this crap about superfan etc does my head in, nobody should wait to see who the manager is before committing because whoever it it is could be a success or a total failure.

Ask Birdie if he’s waiting for a new manager before he renews, he’d look at you like you’re from a different planet.

Like I’ve said before,Forest signed up Hughton thought what an appointment,turned out a disaster, got Cooper in everything turned found.

All clubs are the same, a percentage who supports through thick and thin and the rest who thinks that they know which manager should be appointed before committing, at least I can say I’ve watched everything from bang average, crap and the sublime , not just jumped in different seasons when it’s going well..

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Looks like I'll be finding something else to spend my £600+ on this year.

If the best they can come up with is the bloke many fans have obsessed over because he's a 'Blackburn lad' and a serial Championship failure working at Rotherham I'm afraid the lot of them want sacking.

The club supposedly wanted certain criteria meeting:

Championship experience - both Ainsworth and Warne have that - 4 seasons 4 relegation

Track record of progressing youth players- certainly don't have that at Wycombe and I don't think Rotherham do either?

Reputation for playing decent football? Wycombe and Rotherham two notorious for their physicality and directness.

But hey, both cheap, local, would be grateful for the job so that ticks the boxes here.

Why does everyone believe who’s in the frame because it’s said on here, no one has a clue we are going to appoint, let’s wait and see. 
And why it depends on who we get as manager before committing to a season ticket is crazy.

The last 2 managers appointed were names out the blue.

26 minutes ago, whalleyrover said:

Anyone who cares about Rovers should be looking to force Maggott out of the club asap. I certainly wouldn't be buying a season ticket at present.

ROVERS TRUST VERY QUIET AT THE MOMENT!

No, anyone who cares about Rovers SHOULD be buying a season ticket regardless of who the CEO is, or the the manager or indeed the owners, end of!!!!

1 hour ago, rigger said:

Isn't the Ewood pitch dug up ?

Top couple of inches,removed,  been reseeded and already green, as per every season, difference this season is both goal mouths been stitched/weaved for harder wearing.

27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Read an article about Les Ferdinand who was explaining how they appointed Michael Beale. He said they spoken to over 20 people about the vacancy there and any appointment need a backing in development. 

Ferdinand details head coach recruitment process (qpr.co.uk)

Very interesting read, we could certainly do with a DOF of his calibre.

Slaven Bilic anyone? Surprised his name never been mentioned, unless I missed it, currently out of work.

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

Great job? Five games, one win.

Think you’ve been adopted as one of them too long!

Or 5 games 1 loss😀

12 minutes ago, bradford rover said:

I did not renew my season ticket last season because of Mowbray.... I nearly took up the half season offer but because of work dates clashing with fixtures I  declined .  Which as it turned out was a blessing I have been waiting on the manager appointment  as to whether I get mine and  2 daughter's tickets and am still waiting. But the last few days has really been a wake up call it seems we are still an amateur set up ... I hope I am wrong but I fear the worse and will not buy season tickets u nless we appoint a manager who we can believe in , sad but my money my choice and hard a decision as it is I really am struggling to be motivated my club seems lost .

So how do you define a manager you believe in, a big name who might not get it right or a rookie who might do it.

We’ve no idea who can take us to the next level, must have been loads of Forest fans last year like you,waiting for a name manager before renewing and they got one in Hughton, disaster, sacked but they certainly got it right with Cooper.

Cant see the point in waiting for a manager before renewing, you either renew or you don’t, because whoever it is you don’t know which way it’s going to go.

48 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You're right, it is impossible to second guess. Just like if Mowbray had been Cardiff or Middlesbrough manager he would almost certainly have been sacked during one of those club record bad runs, whilst if Warnock or McCarthy had been given 5 years and good backing here to do whatever they wanted regardless of results I'd be confident we'd have finished higher than 8th during that time.

Its a game of timing and risk. You pay the money and get a Farke or Carvalhal then the risk is reduced but not removed. You cut corners and do things on the cheap and get a Coyle the risk is increased.

I am pretty confident we won't be getting a decent DOF. I'd be surprised if we got one full stop, but if we do it is likely to be another internal promotion of someone who shouldn't get the job or some cheap desperado from elsewhere. There's no point having one if the bloke isn't able to 'direct' the football operation and given he is coming in after the new manager there's not much chance of that happening, especially with these owners.

Not sure there’s anyone to come through internally, but you’re right a decent  DOF needed and a enthusiastic youngish coach and I wouldn’t be bothered if Johnson worked under him, he did a good job for the u/23s before moving up, but from what I could see had very little input on match days, fingers crossed, keep the faith😜

12 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The point I was making was that McCarthy is considered yesterday's man, yet it is 6 years since Pardew did anything of decent quality in football at Palace in the Prem. McCarthy in that time has overachieved with Ipswich, did well with Ireland and initially well with Cardiff before the wheels fell off.

Just to be clear I'm not suggesting McCarthy should get it, just that if we are considering the likes of Pardew then it would be easier, cheaper and probably safer to go with someone like him who at least has done something in this division in recent times.

The same Mick McCarthy you said last season would finish higher than TM, sacked, same with Warnock, sacked and Rovers would be flirting with relegation all season, didn’t happen,impossible to second guess this division and same with managers, a young rookie can take off or keep with a safer older manager, who knows, think I’d like to go down the young Manning route with a decent DOF.

29 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Speaking of top 2 divisions, I heard a stat the other day that Rovers are now the only club in the top two divisions that haven't played at the new Wembley. 

I've not checked the validity of that, but assume it's correct.

That’s true, albeit Bournemouth and Newcastle have only played there when playing Spurs while their new ground was being built.

1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

 

Firstly I'm not sure others dithering about really is the bar we should be aiming for. Bit of a straw man argument that others are doing equally badly. 

Also Burnley in particular is a different kettle of fish. Not knowing what league they would be in till significantly later than is may factor into the delay, as am sure the candidates available and the attractiveness of the position changes depending on this. 

It's also worth saying this isn't our first rodeo when we have had some... issues appointing a manager. It's not a one off struggle. The last 2 appointments have seen some very left field and limited candidates which again makes me a tad reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt. 

Finally managerial search aside, when you consider income, results, the training ground saga, the ground the picture it paints looks pretty grim across the board. Hardly cause for optimism. 

Could you actually tell me how long the process is to bring in a new manager, it takes as long as it takes. Main thing is to try and get the right manager in…

31 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

I find the highlighted statement incredible. There's plenty of evidence of the shambles at Ewood. 

Dealing in facts: 

Fact is we have terrible season ticket sales and sales in general. It's much lower than the Big Sam years. It's lower than the Bowyer years. Goodness it's not tapped in to a fraction of the 30k who came to see us celebrate promotion. Then there's the advertising boards, so many were blank last time I went to Ewood. Just two fact based pieces of evidence that demonstrate we aren't pulling up any trees in this area. 

The ground - unless you walk around with your head in the clouds you can't help but see the disrepair. Maybe I'm imagining the rust and weeds. 

Managerial search = we've known TM's contract is up for months and months now. Even if waiting to see wat league we ended up in we could have done a bit of contingency planning/preparation. Blimey I run a small charity, and we are always contingency planning and planning for various scenarios to try not being caught on the hop. So the lengthy delay is indicative that we haven't planned this very well at all. Especially given this was expected. 

The biggie for me that there's bugger all improvements is our non response to results on the pitch. Crap run after crap run, and TM goes on regardless. That doesn't seem like progress to me. In fact it suggests they don't care at all. 

Others have argued it far better but to say there is no evidence is living in an alternate reality. 

QPR not yet appointed anyone, similar timeframe as Rovers, dingles sacked Dyche, quite a long time ago, still not appointed but looks like Kompany on his way.

If we’d jumped in and got someone in a week they’d be saying too quick, think it’s on course for appointment beginning next week.

58 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Myers is the bloke whose great idea to placate the supporters was to hold a tea party, and spent most of his tenure on sick leave.

As others have pointed out, note that he has not simply come out and said, “I have not spoken to the owners about Duncan Ferguson”.

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Always amazes me when people slag off others for not being willing to spend such a large amount and give up so much of their free time unconditionally. I have again renewed but am not arrogant enough to think I have the right to call others "pathetic" for not doing so.

One thing on top of that, you say use your voice to get the manager out. That has never happened before, Venkys sit in India and couldnt care less what is being shouted at Ewood, they are oblivious. They even promised to come this season just gone and in the end they couldnt be arsed. I went on protest marches and chanted for Kean to go and it made no difference. 

Think you’ve misinterpreted it, I said the reason is pathetic,waiting to see who the manager is, no one knows,whoever is appointed that it will be a success or failure I always thought you support the club, not the manager or the owners…

1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

Just on these points:

The ground is in a dreadful state. It looks shabby from the outside and on closer inspection in parts it’s severely dilapidated. Occasionally being shamed into skipping piles of debris is nothing to celebrate.

The training ground that they tried to build houses on and transferred the ownership of? Brilliant.

I’ll give you the academy. The one bit of Jack’s legacy they haven’t disgraced yet. Mind you, it’s more than paid for itself under Venky’s reign of terror.

The ticket office… dear me. It’s barely ever open. I hope you aren’t including our record low season ticket sales as a reason to be cheerful.

Commercialism. We lost our shirt sponsor midway through the season and had to go cap in hand to a vaping company based about half a mile from Ewood. Our commercial revenue figures are pathetic. Most of the advertising hoardings at Ewood display that nauseating  Venky’s logo.

The shirt colours??? What on earth are you banging on about here? I suppose the fact they have stuck with blue and white halves and haven’t got us playing in yellow and pink polka dots is something of a plus. Or are you referring to the shirts that we didn’t order enough of and took an age to get on sale?

The fans? You must be benchmarking ticket sales against the season we played behind closed doors, because by any other metric our attendances are poor, and more fans are walking away all the time.

You’re talking utter rubbish.

Can’t believe how many on here will rubbish the club in everything they do.Regarding  the strip it’s the first time for years that most fans thought all 3 strips were excellent. We had a great sponsor and it certainly wasn’t Rovers fault they went down it was due to the pandemic..I’m convinced some on here can’t bring themselves to credit the club when they do something right due to their dislike of the owners/ management.

We all know they have made some massive cock ups, but we are where we are.

Same with getting a new manager there seems to loads on here saying they won’t get a season ticket if so and so gets the job, pathetic really, you back the club and if the manager turns out to be crap then use your voice to get rid, similar to Ince when he was appointed……

16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Well if we look at the 3 promoted managers this season I don't think any of them were appointed following month+ long searches, expanding shortlists and sitting there waiting for applications and expressions of interest to come in.

Each of those clubs knew more or less what they were after and went after their targets.

Forest thought they knew what they wanted when Hughton came on board, didn’t work, besides a bit of skill getting a new manager in it’s also a bit of a lottery.

Sometimes a good experienced name works and sometimes a young up and coming manager works.

The main thing Rovers need to learn is not to go cheap like the Coyle appointment 

let’s hope they make a good decision..

1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

It’s all gone really quiet on the Lenihan and Nyambe contract talks too.

Whether that’s due to the powers that be only being able to do one thing at once and concentrating all their efforts on the manager search, or the players wanting to see if the appointment matches their ambitions, who knows. Either way it feels like the longer it takes for us to appoint someone, the more likely they will be to get fixed up elsewhere.

A little update on Lenihan, a mate of mine who works for Rovers was talking to Waggot last week trying to get any names re new manager but he wouldn’t give anything away, but he did say that Lenihan and his agent are happy with the contract/ money Rovers are offering but thinks he’s hanging on until the new manager is named. No mention of Nyambe..

If it doesn’t come off with the supposedly bigger names, don’t be surprised if they go for Manning from MK Dons, heard definitely been interviewed and impressed..

2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Not sure that really helps anyone.

Needs to be a month.

Probably hoping new manager in place and fans will renew, but hearing only 1 week extension..

Deadline will be extended by 1 week 👁

21 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You never know. Ferguson's name keeps popping up on the rumour mill. Manning would be very interesting but has been very much on QPR's radar seeming.

Any other decent League 1  managers apart from him and Ainsworth?

The lad  from Rotherham not too shabby, Paul Warne, but he’s championship now.

6 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

4 interviewed on Monday, my understanding that ainsworth wasn’t one of them, but another league 1 manager was, one out of work champ manager and one looking to move into management from years of a coaching role 

Possibly Manning and big Dunc could be two of them.

9 minutes ago, eire3382 said:

Reading this topic is eye opening really. It really shows how aimless this club is. We the fans haven’t got a clue what’s going on. We can’t even make educated guesses. Some of us believe our top targets have to be interested because we are a club on the up. Some believe the owners will look for the cheapest option regardless. Others believe a left field appointment. 
My opinion is simple. We have some talented young players and a youth system that produces. We should look for a manager with a history of working under such circumstances. Add a little experience where needed. 
Will we get such an appointment? Who knows. We don’t even know who is doing the interviews etc. As ever no communication. Ignore the odds on who will be the next manager. The bookies haven’t a clue. No one does

Pretty well agree with most of that, no one has a clue outside of the club, but saying we don’t know who’s doing the interviews, why should we know, there shouldn’t be communication re names until it’s done and dusted.