Caddis was still sat down when Graham indicated to Mowbray that Evans was injured and needed to be subbed. I don't think Tony had realised this but immediately turned to Travis and he was on before play restarted - I think play stopped when Rothwell got clattered in our half?? At first I was surprised but then saw it as positive Tony reacted so quickly to comment from probably the club's senior and most influential player. Far better to defend in midfield than bring on another defender.

Before Graham came on Tony had indicated to both him and Caddis to get ready but clearly changed his mind about Caddis.

Personally I had a great time last season........

More a question of being realistic. We've played well all season, we look comfortable in this league and we're due a win. Up to 5th. In Tony we trust.

Sadly he's been out of his depth since he joined the first team squad. He's either two yards off the ball or tries to run straight through his opponent.

We will win this.

Palmer wasn't injured for Wednesday but had to return home, London I think, for personal and family reasons.

@perthblue02 @Herbie6590 thank you. I have a good friend who works in this industry, for a different company, and specifically the football market. I've seen many of that company's installations, as have you all, without complaint. I was surprised by the quality of the overall installation which is why I was interested in the supplier.

Have you got the company name by any chance?

That was because he had no cover in the first half and was left exposed several times.

Top six..........................the rest is irrelevant to me

I suspect their budget is what it takes to get back in to the PL..............................and that doesn't necessarily require big bucks

So moving the singing supporters from the DE is unacceptable but moving the silent spectators is acceptable? Smacks of double standards to me.

As far as I can see there are two issues with putting away fans in DE upper - increased match day costs which are unavoidable and ensuring missles etc. can't be thrown on to the Rovers support below. The second is simple enough to overcome if the club has the desire. I can't see any other problems inside the ground and there don't seem to be any major incidents outside. For me being told I am not a Rovers supporter and a mere spectator is equally pertinent. I'm looking forward to the view being explained.

It's your view the only people who can be considered to be Rovers supporters are those who sing? The rest are simply spectators who by inference don't care about the club one way or another. Can you confirm I've understood you correctly?

Arrogant? Why? Could you explain this please. I'd suggest the arrogance comes from you, and a number of others who chose to characterise or categorise Rovers supporters, in one way or another. By your definition Rovers probably have thousands of spectators and very few supporters, that doesn't make any sense.

Ah so people who don’t sing are spectators and not supporters? Presumably I should give up, return my ST and take up knitting? Try telling the guy next to me, 60+, who goes home and away and to the reserves (whatever we call them now). The wheelchair fans who go home and away and the PLAYERS went to thank for their support last season. Why is it we have a section of our supporters who find it necessary to label other fans in an unflattering manner? What does this achieve? The drum was very irritating for the first 20 minutes but we didn’t notice it after that. Either he stopped or we got used to it. I hope I simply got used to it. The BBE, unsurprisingly, was far louder.

Really? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Presumably these fans want to watch Rovers yet deny themselves the pleasure. I realise people are upset and it appears the club didn't handle this well but I, who have no interest in sitting in the DE, have been fully aware all summer of the closure. This smacks of if I can't play by my rules I'm taking my ball home.

My impression of the new STs is very positive. I rarely spend in the concourse but anything which helps to speed up the process has to be good. I suspect the club will get a few more pounds out of people like me. I often don’t have cash with me which limits my buying, this will overcome that barrier in the club’s eyes.

I don’t know anything about selling jumpers down the market. I do know about production costs and sales. A seat is a product which has a cost based on the overheads of running the stadium and the direct costs of putting on an individual match. Expecting current attendances to fully cover overheads would be unrealistic. I suspect Rovers allocate an overhead cost based on 20-25,000 attendance and a direct matchday cost based on the actual cost of putting on the game. Making a profit from a seat is an important contribution to the club’s bottom line. It’s unrealistic to do otherwise. I didn’t suggest the club would lose it’s fan base by reducing prices though I do believe if it’s done for some it must be for all. In my case I pay £15/match but would expect to pay £10 if that’s the new price. This means every new fan at £10 is actually only generating £5 for the club as 50% is subsiding the £5 lost from me. If you believe and can demonstrate the extra +/- 14,000 would turn up for £10 please do so. From what I saw a large proportion of those 14,000 against Oxford were children who I don’t think paid £10. I’d also question how much real interest most of those people really had in supporting Rovers? In the PL we had great prices, excellent team and good crowds. I can’t recall any games which sold out. £15/match is hardly top whack. There’s nothing to suggest £10 tickets would significantly increase crowds but if you have evidence to the contrary I’ll be happy to discuss it.

You may feel we are looking at a relegation dog fight. I like to go in to every season with a positive outlook. We have a decent manager, a team which should be full of confidence and we’re in the process of strengthening the squad - I’m not up to date with our signings as I don’t usually worry about this throughout the summer. I hope the team and manager have a positive outlook as beginning the season with expectations such as yours would leave us beaten before we started.

Stuart the club pass on increased costs today because to delay this will eventually result in a significant price rise. When this happened those complaining today would complain even more vociferously. I think Mattyblue made this very point several weeks ago. Last time I went to Bolton Vue I paid £4.50 for a Monday afternoon over 60s ticket. It was a major release I was very keen to see. There were three people in the cinema, me, my wife being two. It was the first day of showing. I’d guess more money would have been made by not having the performance as I would have paid £9.50 the full evening price. Granted these are not identical entertainments but the point is dropping prices does not necessarily increase attendance. @Mattyblue makes his point very well. £15 is a decent price to watch Championship football from a team I’m sure will do very well. I can’t wait.

No Stuart I did not say this. I said “I don’t think it’s reasonable to ask to pay less.” This means I don’t think as fans we should expect to pay less. If the club chooses to sell STs that is the club’s choice and it’s perfectly reasonable for the club to make that decision. Personally I think it would be daft. After 40 years in sales I’m well placed to know the first priority is to sell at a profit, second is to retain the customer base and third to protect the product value. Drop the price to £10 and all three go out the window. I’m not up to date with what the marketing effort is to increase support. I do know though a £1-2 increase per match is at best generating £16000 which isn’t exactly squeezing the existing support. Match day costs will have increased and so therefore STs do. Offering £10 STs is not the solution. For one reason it’s going to upset the existing support. If the guy figuratively sat next to me is paying £10 then that, quite reasonably, is all I am prepared to pay. I’d hazard a guess all existing ST holders would feel the same. Where would we put these £10 tickets? £10 tickets for some will simply alienate anyone charged more.

I can’t see where I’ve said that at all. The closest would be i suggested at £10/ticket we’d be lucky to get 13,500 - half the 27000 who turned out against Oxford. Ergo it’s pointless dropping the price to £10. If the 7-8000 were to drop, which I don’t believe it will, adding £1-2 doesn’t make up the difference. In the heady PL days I knew 30+ people who regularly went to Ewood - probably all ST holders. Today four still go - that’s the problem. The missing thousands probably are/were Rovers fans but not fully committed, come what may Rovers. We both know the difference - diehards or daft, not sure which.

That’s an impressive number but does raise a question in my mind. How many are actual WHU fans? When Rovers were a PL club there can be little doubt we were the most attractive accessible club in the area. I’d suggest a proportion of the then fanbase came to watch PL football and weren’t necessarily fully paid up Rovers. With West Ham offering a PL ST for as little as £19/match (next price is £27/game) if one simply wants to watch PL football it’s the place to go. In addition it’s been possible to actually buy an ST and I wonder if It’s possible to get an ST at Spurs or Arsenal? Good marketing by WHU who must have spotted the opportunity and grasped it. I bet the boardroom isn’t conning itself in to believing they’re all Hammers. Match day prices at London Stadium for a Category A game are £55 against the £19 ST and £65 against the £27. If one wants to watch City, Utd etc. it’s a no brainer deal. This also seems to be Rovers strategy with an ST starting st £15/match and the same seat £18 on match day. Mine in the JWL increases from £15/ST to £22 match day for Category C, more for A and B. This is a Championship Club offering seats from £15/game. I don’t think it reasonable to ask to pay less. People will complain and will continue to find reason to complain about everything at Ewood. We are not a WHU offering very good prices for a product that has high demand and low availability within an area of relative affluence - London as a whole. I wonder how many WHU ST holders have the equivalent of a BB1 post code? Even if Rovers dropped the price to £10 it would be a miracle if half the Oxford 27000 turned out. We have 8000 fans, that’s it. £15 to watch the Rovers? Bargain. A +/- increase of £2? How many people continue to pay rip off Sky prices?