Have it right, they secured 21st place in the country and a pointless piece of tin. Big woop. If they want to give that the big 'un then so what? Shows their aspirations. That's probably the best Burnley side that have shown up at Ewood since Venkys came and probably the best performance we've put up in that time too. It wasn't enough, but today wasn't the shambles of November

A brilliant strike from outside the box against the run of play. If that goes into the stand you aren't saying they "looked like scoring". One of those things. We got done by the extra class that they have

Neither did they

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They've been above us in the league for, what, a decade? And still the biggest issue for them is their allocation at Ewood. Our success in the 90s/00s has well and truly messed their heads up. They have no idea how to handle it. I was born in the 80s and can honestly say I barely gave Burnley a second thought until 2000, and then promptly forgot about them again for nearly a decade. We could be in the National League North and they'd still be desperately refreshing live scores at 4:40 on a Saturday in the hope that Kings Lynn scrape an equaliser. It's so unbelievably small time that it's beyond funny, through to excruciating and back around to funny again. And the fact that their chairman has felt the need to get involved while they're walking to promotion just shows that it's going to take a hell of a long time for them to overcome it. Never change dingles, it's a comfort to know that no matter how bad it may get at Rovers, you'll always be there to break our fall.

That's not effort you're complaining about. The lad basically needs oxygen after 80 mins every game through busting a gut. You're complaining about a lack of striker's instinct, which he definitely lacks.

Really!? I honestly can't believe that take. I've given him pelters (albeit not on here) more times than I can count, but not once have I ever seen the need to question his effort.

We've got a side that - odd atrocious game aside - put everything into it. Might be a minimum requirement, but a lot of teams (including our own for most of the last 10+ years) don't. Some players are rather limited (like Gally), but I love watching them put the shift in. That's what made them excellent for me

Can't say I'll be re-living that pain again in a hurry! I know you probably aren't meaning to be condescending, but maybe I just have a different opinion to you, and it's not that I need two viewings to "realise" what you saw in one.

So what? It's what I think. If it angers people then they need to grow up. 9/10 the ref stops play, foul or not. That's the law of the game. If he gets up the ref stops the game 0/10 times and he's out of position. That wasn't my point anyway, he was good beforehand and made a mistake. JDT's subs are more justifiable of ire, that and the ref are what cost us. But again, JDT doesn't deserve undue stick for me either, it was another brilliant performance (for 80 mins).

Eh? I can't say I give enough of a shit about what randoms on a forum think about a player to falsify a fake opinion. If it's so cut and dry then why does JDT play him? Why do Liverpool employ him, and why do paid pundits disagree with you? I'm not saying that makes your opinion wrong, it doesn't, but it's obviously not "cut and dry". I don't think the anger towards him is justified, so I said it.

I completely disagree, but fair enough. I'm not a huge Morton fan, but when he's played in the last month I think he's been very very good.

That's all cool. Was just saying it's fine to have changed your mind, you had a legit take back then based on what you knew and you have a different take now based on knowing more. It's all good. Does show that he was well scouted and chosen by that side of the hierarchy though, because like you and many more I was very skeptical.

Feels like you're going to great lengths to justify a previously held opinion. No one cares if you change your mind - or at least shouldn't... I thought Szmodics wasn't up to the required level only about 2 months ago. I was wrong. Looks like Broughton has bagged a good 'un for a very reasonable fee.

TK has been stitched right up with that drawing

I think their point is that (presumably Broughton) managed to get sign off on £10m of spend from Venkys in hours, where over the past few years Waggot/Mowbray/Venus couldn't get sign off for basically anything for weeks or more. It's a reasonable point I hadn't really thought about, regardless of it being a drop in the ocean compared to PL riches. It shows either Venkys have greater trust in the new setup, Broughton is just a better operator than the previous dollopers for thinking of that type of deal as an option, or Venkys are more engaged with the new setup. Probably a combination of all 3 to different degrees. Whatever the reason, it can only be a good sign.

The Bosman ruling was about footballers being classified as workers in EU law. There were already laws governing workers, but they weren't being applied for professional athletes. If the EFL/EFL clubs have standard clauses written within their contracts that void that contract if it is not ratified by the EFL - as you would expect, otherwise we would currently be paying O'Brien's wages, he just wouldn't be allowed to play for us - what you're suggesting is that from nowhere courts could decide that you can be sued for not entering into a contract... What have Rovers done wrong in law? They've cocked up sure, but legally how is this different to saying you'll sign Peter Odemwingie, have him travel down to your ground and then say "nah mate, off you pop"? It isn't.

Over-achieving is achieving more than is expected, not achieving more than is possible. For instance, we are over achieving so far this season given the squad we have. Last season we probably also over achieved given the squad. But we embarrassingly under achieved given where we were in January. The season before that we under-achieved to such a ridiculous degree that the manager had no right to remain in post.

😂 That list of "honours" brought such a smile to my face! I can just imagine the scenes if you'd "won" the Intertoto Cup. Pendle Hill would never have recovered.

Aye, same outcome regardless. Awful first half to watch, decent second, and a much needed win. Just hope we set out like the second half at home from now on, at least gets the crowd involved to our advantage a bit

I think we just tried to do what we did to them away, sit off, be compact and when we win it back, hit it over the top. They sat their defence deeper when they had it so we couldn't do that, and had to just knock it about aimlessly when we won it back - so basically we just did what they always do... Leading to probably the worst half of football humanity has ever witnessed. HT team talk probably went along the lines of... Fuck it, these guys are shit, just get in their faces.

They cost more than £5m. Hence why we didn't sell Brereton to Nice. If he does gain a track record while he's here, we get a "bargain". If he doesn't, we don't buy him. I respectfully suggest you stop.

This is the most painful conversation I've ever read. If he isn't worth £5m when it comes to paying it, we don't pay it. If he is, we do

You as a stapler? Vale might be decent in the future, but judging him on his two league starts, he has absolutely no business being in that squad.

I would say you're playing pretty fast and loose with the phrase "to be fair", but each to their own.