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Which ex manager would succeed
Herbie6590 replied to Wegerleswiggle's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
FFP regulations - we’d get hit with another transfer embargo & potentially a points deduction -
Which ex manager would succeed
Herbie6590 replied to Wegerleswiggle's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Never go back...never the same 2nd time around. None of those listed has current working knowledge of the Championship. Nearest is Paul Lambert and he used to manage Aston Villa BTW but he rarely mentions it. -
A slightly longer version of this week's Accrington Observer column Where To Source A Footballing Fix ? Yet another international break brings some light relief from Rovers’ current Championship tribulations; a chance to pause, reflect, re-set and look elsewhere for a footballing fix...but where exactly to find it? Let’s explore the options further... England This last week saw England play their 1,000th international fixture and secure qualification for next year’s Euros with a comfortable win over Montenegro; themselves without the services of the now-retired Rovers “legend”, Simon Vukcevic. In the course of those 1,000 matches Blackburn Rovers have contributed 48 players to the nation’s cause – the ninth highest contributing club to date - Spurs lead the way with 78. Without resorting to Google, can you name the last Rovers England international to date? (Answer lower down in the column). Those 48 players won 321 caps in total whilst also representing Rovers and contributing 41 of those is club legend Bob Crompton; ahead of Bryan Douglas on 36 and Ronnie Clayton with 35. Bob Crompton actually passed away following a heart attack suffered watching his beloved Rovers play Burnley during a war-time match in 1941. The 1995 title-winning team not entirely surprisingly, was something of a bedrock of modern Rovers England representation, providing seven internationals during the 1990’s halcyon days. In keeping with social media themes circulating last week, here is an England team of Blackburn Rovers internationals, fit to take on any other club representative England team in my biased viewpoint (and yes, please forgive the recency bias..!) :- Flowers Newton Clayton Eckersley Le Saux Douglas Batty Dunn Wilcox Sutton Shearer The problem position of second centre back would have to be resolved by playing say Bob Crompton inside at centre back, Bill Eckersley inside or more radically; Chris Sutton could drop back and make room for say, David Bentley to play the “Number 10” role behind Shearer. The substitute’s bench could accommodate such luminaries as the aforementioned Bob Crompton, Bobby Langton, Stuart Ripley and Stephen Warnock – yes, he was the most recent England international capped whilst on the staff at Ewood. Not a bad contribution from a town club and ahead of the likes of Newcastle, Leeds, Wolves, 1966 World Cup Winners West Ham Utd and...well, Burnley. League One Tried it, surprisingly enjoyed the enforced break, but don’t particularly want to go back again if I’m being scrupulously honest. But on a blank weekend for Rovers, I am not averse to undertaking a bit of ad-hoc scouting “just in case” you might say (!). “Surely both Rotherham and Stanley aren’t going up?” Well, no, they aren’t...but... With Accrington Stanley visiting my patch in South Yorkshire, the opportunity to drop into the exotically named New York Stadium once again, was too much to resist last weekend. It’s one of my favourite away grounds and one of the best examples of a club relocation in recent years. The Millmoor floodlights are still visible from outside but the new stadium is even closer to the town centre. You can easily park nearby, there are town centre pubs welcoming away fans, the view once you are in your seat is excellent, the sound is contained within the ground, generating decent atmosphere and most importantly, I can be home within twenty minutes or so of the final whistle. Both of these teams might be in different divisions next season based upon what I evidenced on Saturday. Rotherham seem tidy, well-organised and move the ball quickly to feet, making them tricky opponents. Stanley sadly, on Saturday’s first half evidence at least, look like they might have a bit of a battle on their hands this season. They were insipid in the opening forty-five minutes but at least made “a right good go of it” in the second half as Gary Bowyer would have it. It was too little too late and a single goal reverse does nothing for their confidence. Once again, a team I was supporting, wearing blue, came a cropper at the hands of the Millers. Rovers Return Back to the Ewood beat, Rovers next visitors are Barnsley in what is already in danger of taking on the mantle of a relegation six-pointer, even at this embryonic point of the season. Tony Mowbray’s expression and voice tone tend towards the world-weary at the best of times, but the last few weeks have given him particular cause to furrow his brow. Another reverse against the side currently bottom, with just a single victory so far - and that on the season’s opening day, against one of the favourites for promotion, Fulham - really would light up the forums you suspect. Since then, it’s been a tough old journey for Barnsley, but they have taken a point each off Derby, Swansea, West Brom and Bristol City so they need to be respected. Joey Barton’s best friend Daniel Stendel quit last month after a 5-1 defeat at Preston, capping a run of what was at that point 10 games without a win. That run has now stretched to 15 and playing a team on that sort of a run brings out the fatalist in my character. Radio advertisement voiceover: “Is your team struggling to find form? Without a win in 15 games you say? Why, come on down to our Ewood Park rehabilitation facility forthwith and receive the warmest of welcomes from the local back four...” Defeat here really would be ugly and deeply concerning. Just five points separate Rovers from the drop zone and of the teams currently beneath Rovers, Huddersfield seem to be on the up with new manager Danny Cowley and Stoke similarly with Michael O’Neill now in situ. This is no time for a slip up, unless Mauricio Pochettino really fancies a new challenge. Tony Mowbray knows that football is a results business and he will be fully aware that this is the second poor run in the calendar year. He has lost two key defenders to injury of course in Cunningham and Lenihan, but he has also constantly tinkered with the midfielders and forwards in front of his back four, much like a chef trying to conjure up some culinary magic by adding familiar ingredients and spices somewhat randomly to his dishes. “Bolognese...ummm...but what if we added curry powder or used prawns instead of mince...?” The opening twenty minutes at Deepdale demonstrated that when this side plays at pace, with courage and determination, they can be a match for the division’s best. However, the second half at Deepdale served only to emphasise that confidence is a brittle commodity and once lost, much like Prince Andrew’s credibility, is terrifically difficult to regain. After Barnsley comes Brentford at Ewood and then another “six-pointer” away at Stoke. The fixtures come thick and fast in the Championship and yes, it is definitely a results business. Right now, Rovers need to dig deep and find at least a couple from somewhere, fast. Or kidnap Mauricio Pochettino.
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@Wegerleswiggle Ian Miller was on the home team & Vince O Keefe on the away side. Vince played out in the 2nd half & was better than everyone else on the pitch...except Windy who still had pace to burn in that company at his age ! As the old gag goes...”You can go past....the ball can go past...but not both...” ?
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I did back in 2001 - it was the day after “that night” at Deepdale so there was a lot of joy around the place. Souey turned up,at one point to be interviewed by TV so I managed to get a photo with him as well. My rationale was it was my childhood ambition, I’m the same age as Mark Hughes & I thought if he can run around out there, then so can I..*? I absolutely loved it and you will always have those memories. So do it...?? * I couldn’t ?
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Indeed...I posted something on Twitter to that effect - as this is for the Accy Observer I focused on Accy sports shops but I spent a fair amount of pocket money at Pratt’s in the 70’s. @arbitro I was involved in a lovely thread on Twitter a few years back reminiscing about traditional sports shop & they joined in, I think they major on cricket kit these days unless locals know better ? When I lived in Birmingham there was a fabulous shop run by a Harry Parkes at the top end of Corporation St, I didn’t realise for years that he was a former Villa player. When he died the shop disappeared and a part of me died as well. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/aston-villa-legend-harry-parkes-86711
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A slightly longer version of this week's Accrington Observer column Feelgood Factor Soon Fades Away Well that didn’t last long did it? Any residual goodwill after the late, late show at Ewood last week soon dissipated and you might say “normal service” was resumed at Elland Road. This was always going to be a tough fixture but the reality of Saturday’s display demonstrated that whilst Leeds Utd are technically, extremely competent and well-drilled they are by no means unassailable, it's just that Rovers failed to prove the point. I first set foot in Elland Road as a small boy when, on the way home after a Sunday afternoon trip out to Knaresborough, York or somewhere roundabouts, we stopped off at the ground on the off chance that we might possibly be able to go in and take a peek. It was a fetish of mine back then and in truth still is; I love looking at empty football grounds. Even more so if you can sneak in to look behind the scenes. I once had the great fortune to work in an office block overlooking Benfica’s Estadio da Luz and struggled to concentrate if I sat next to the window. Holidays with me are also an absolute blast when I see a floodlight pylon or a cantilevered stand in the distance. Unimaginable today, but a gate was open, some routine maintenance was taking place and I could wander onto the actual turf that saw the likes of Bremner, Giles, Lorimer, Gray and Charlton J. perform every fortnight on their way to Championship and FA Cup successes. From that moment on, I took close interest in the fortunes of Leeds United, lured in further by that glorious Admiral away strip which launched the modern era of replica kit manufacture and marketing. All yellow with white & blue stripes and the infamous “smiley” badge. I loved it, but despite repeatedly dropping hints, it was never to be mine. I would steam up the windows of Gibsons, David Lloyd Sports and EJ Riley each in turn when out and about in Accrington, pointing and insisting on its suitability as a Christmas or birthday present. As an aside, there were three (count ‘em..!) mainstream sports shops in Accrington in those days; all selling actual sports equipment and kit; bats, rackets, spare studs even jockstraps - not knock off jeans, tea mugs and enormous “bags for life”. That’s possibly worthy of a column in its own right. Leave that thought with me... Back to Saturday, Rovers started reasonably brightly in fairness. They looked comfortable but the passing accuracy was awry all too often and the speed at which the ball was shifted from back to front was too slow even to threaten to cause Leeds any real damage. Lots of froth and bubble but little substance nor cutting edge. Leeds by contrast were the epitome of ruthless efficiency, the first two shots on target that Rovers allowed, delivered their opponents a two-nil lead. One characteristic that we have in common with Manchester City this past weekend. The opener coming from the penalty spot was certainly “soft” but despite many protestations on the terraces and social media, by the letter of the laws, it was awarded correctly. My benchmark for these sorts of decisions is; “Would I expect it to be awarded to us if the roles were reversed?” and had it been Gallagher blocked off in that manner by a Leeds defender, then yes, I would have expected to receive a penalty kick. Adarabioyo's challenge was clumsy, though undertaken with no malice intended, he looked rather like a man trying to shoo away a wasp at a picnic with his foot in order to protect his sandwiches. With Adarabioyo missing the ball completely, Ayling took advantage of the situation, emphasising the contact and falling dramatically in instalments to ensure that the referee had spotted the infringement. In fairness, the second Leeds goal was a thing of beauty and demonstrated the influence of Bielsa on this side. Rovers lose possession from their own throw-in near the half way line, Leeds sweep the ball back to their keeper, from left to right and back again. Phillips emerges centrally just outside his own penalty area and strides forward, unchallenged for the length of half the pitch. A long ball into the area is controlled with balletic grace by Bamford and laid on a plate for Harrison to curl one into the bottom corner. Eleven passes with nothing approximating pressure on the ball from Rovers until Bamford became involved. Had Rovers scored it, the away fans would possibly still be celebrating now. Two nil and fears of an impending mauling rise. Rovers raced into a two-goal lead at Deepdale of course only to see it drift away like the scent of a Hollands Pie in the breeze; would Leeds fall victim similarly? A corner saw Derek Williams meet the cross with a bullet header and so just before half-time, Rovers were very much back in the game. The second half sadly just seemed to peter out. The anxiety felt by Leeds players and their fans grew as the clock ticked but frankly, it’s hard to recall anything remotely resembling a clear-cut chance for Rovers in that 2nd half. Tony Mowbray once more threw on Danny Graham to try and make the ball stick up top. A few minutes later, John Buckley entered the fray as his wild card to try and make something unpredictable happen. “It worked against Wednesday, why not here?” seemed to be the logic. With his final substitution, rather than the erratic but often impactful Rothwell, Mowbray deployed Evans. A puzzling choice at the time. A baffling one with the benefit of mature reflection. In the aftermath, Mowbray chose to focus his ire (in public at least) on the award of the soft penalty. This was not entirely surprising although somewhat dispiriting, predictable and already this season, tediously repetitive. A solitary attempt on target across 90 minutes, all that Rovers were able to create is most definitely not the fault of the match officials. The failings of this squad are starting to accumulate. Talk of the play-offs has moved from being optimistic/ambitious to fanciful/ludicrous and in reality, the league table these days is studied from the bottom up. There’s a long way to go, but moving into another international break on the back of another defeat was the last thing this increasingly beleaguered team needed. Anyhow, back to those old sports shops in Accrington...
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Venkys London Ltd accounts
Herbie6590 replied to Pete1981's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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You may recall John as a guest on Episode 112 of the podcast, well the book can now be ordered from deCoubertin Books following this link. The book is published on 27th November 2019. https://www.decoubertin.co.uk/rovers It focuses on 1991-5 mainly, but references other periods of Rovers glory including the Howard Kendall years to provide a comprehensive story that will delight old & young Rovers fans alike. Podcast link here:
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BRFCS catches up once more with F365 columnist, writer & author John Nicholson who has a new book out "Can We Have Our Football Back ?" which lays low the myths about football behind the paywalls and the corrosive effect of money on the game...but most importantly, what we the fans can do about it. We also have a delightful sketch from Mr & Mrs Arthur all the way from Canada and the BRFCS Repertory Company appear once again with their bespoke advertisements. Once more, Ian Herbert conducts the orchestra. View full record
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*hides behind sofa* ?
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Ep 112 - 1995 & All That - with John Duerden
Herbie6590 replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
This is available to order now & it’s a fine read, covering way more than just the 1994/5 season. Highly recommended notwithstanding my occasional quotes. https://www.decoubertin.co.uk/rovers -
A slightly longer version of this week's Accrington Observer column Adarabioyo Rises To The Challenge The fireworks were scheduled for 5:10pm but in reality, they started closer to 4:50pm when Wednesday substitute Jacob Murphy nodded home from close range and set off delirious celebrations in the upper tier of the Darwen End, just the upper tier note. I struggle to think of any circumstances under which asking £40 plus to watch a Championship fixture is justifiable, clearly several thousand Wednesday fans thought similarly. It was set up by former Claret Steven Fletcher, a nuisance for Rovers all afternoon, beating Walton to a near-post cross but only able to deflect it onto the bar, Murphy finished the job from a metre out. At that precise moment, any hopes that Rovers had for resurrection of their season seemed fit only to top one of the bonfires planned for later on Saturday night. It had been a dispiriting week, the Preston result forcing even Tony Mowbray’s staunchest admirers to reassess just what the future might hold. Another relegation would surely be cataclysmic for a club still coming to terms with its post-Premier League fate. Twenty years ago, almost to the day, Jack Walker lost patience with Brian Kidd following a seven-game winless run and the speculation was mounting that Mowbray might soon meet a similar fate. However, structures seem more stable around Ewood Park these days, with knee-jerk reactions much less likely; but for all that, a win would help to dowse the bonfire of criticism aimed at Mowbray. Pre-season expectations varied significantly across the fanbase, some expecting play-off contention, some content with modest improvement but hardly anyone predicted a relegation battle. In a week where Netflix announced that they had been trialling software to allow viewers to watch films at 1.5x speed, the first half at Ewood had you longing for such a gadget for use in real-life. Reducing the “spectacle” to 30 minutes would have been a popular option such was the paucity of entertainment. The atmosphere in the ground was in parts of that first half, quieter than during the pre-match period of remembrance, sullied as it was by some unseemly noise emanating from the Darwen End. Charging those particular loons £40 for their tickets didn’t seem such bad idea at that point. Much like a jigsaw puzzle afficionado, Wednesday collected a series of corners but they failed to convert their pressure into clear chances and so praise must be handed out to Rovers latest defensive formation. Initially, it seemed to be a three when attacking, four when defending, but it soon settled down as a flat four with Williams wide left and the inexorable Bennett slotting in at right back. The stand-out performer in that first-half was the on-loan youngster Tosin Adarabioyo. His calmness in possession, desire to play it on the grass, to split the opponent’s lines with his passes and to treat possession of the football with the highest of respect marks him out as a player who has evidently received coaching of the highest quality. The half-time whistle was something of a relief, a chance to re-group and re-think and start anew in the second; for the fans as well for that matter. It was Garry Monk who blinked first, introducing Forestieri. Soon afterwards, the predictable reply from Rovers was to turn to Danny Graham, a man whose lustrous, bushy beard appears to signify a dearth of offers for razor sponsorship deals. Sam Gallagher suffered a knock but it might have been the preferred tactical change in any event. A Rovers attack with Graham at its fulcrum still looks the best option for Tony Mowbray; unless and until Sam Gallagher can reproduce that opening 25 minutes at Deepdale across 90 minutes and on a regular basis. With Joe Rothwell joining Graham a few minutes later and disrupting the midfield with his high intensity running and dribbling, the game finally sparked into life. Keiren Westwood in the Wednesday goal, himself no ally of Gillette it seems, demonstrated that goalkeepers mature with age like a fine port and two impressive saves from Travis and Rothwell in short order seemed to suggest that a goalless draw was to be the height of Rovers aspirations. The intervention of Fletcher & Murphy, sounding for all the world like the names of a brace of springer spaniel pups, seemed to have marked Rovers cards and the ground braced itself. Which is when Tony Mowbray threw on young John Buckley for the veteran Downing, presumably in the hope that his youthful endeavour could contrive a chance where Downing’s experience had been unable. Buckley entered the fray carrying a note which was passed to Adarabioyo. Much speculation ensued on social media as to the contents but frankly, even if it did say “Score two lads” as one wag on Twitter suggested, it did the trick. With just two minutes of regulation time remaining, Bennett flighted a delightful free kick into the box, Adarabioyo used his physical presence once more, this time as an attacking force and looped a lovely header over the previously invincible Westwood, ostensibly it appeared to save a point. Well surely that’s what most of us thought? Except for John Buckley... Three minutes later, more Rovers pressure resulted in Dack & Graham reforming their tried and tested partnership, a horrible slice by Börner left Danny Graham with time and space in the box to set up Rothwell. He wanted a touch too many and Börner seemed to have atoned by sliding in to clear the ball, but only to the feet of Buckley, who needed no second bidding to shoot and via a kindly deflection off the left leg of the hapless...yup, Börner again, wrong footed Westwood, to make it 2-1 and initiate delirious celebrations. Much has been made of Rovers recent inability to retrieve lost causes and/or score late goals; all too often being on the wrong end of astonishing comebacks (just last week for instance) but this was as welcoming as a potato pie supper, followed by parkin and treacle toffee; nourishing, warming, then ultimately sweet. Naturally, the remainder of stoppage time was still sufficient for the Owls to hit the post following a deflection from that man Adarabioyo again and Rovers needed a fine save from Walton to keep out the follow up. The impromptu on-field firework display was over, just the off-field ones to enjoy now. Crisis averted, at least temporarily; zero without a win. Leeds Utd away up next, if ever there was a place to stage another comeback in stoppage time...
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“Just do whatever Pep would ask you to do in these circumstances”