2 hours ago, Mercer said:

I think your figures are very wrong.

My understand is it is an expensive deal (loan fee and wages) for Rovers.

You may be right but I doubt it.

We are cutting costs with salaries so I can’t see us paying a loan fee plus making him our highest paid player. 

5 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

If he's fit, Ayala is surely the best centre half we have had since been relegated? What ye reckon? 

It’s the hope that kills you! 
I would agree with you…but he will probably only pay 10 games this season!

Wonderful result.

however our bench looks dire. We need reinforcements. All over the pitch Id say.

Special mention for Dolan, he is 19 and once he develops his goal scoring and when to pass we have a top top player on our hands.

pickering- first game at this level and did not look out of place, he also loves a tackle (what the hell was the yellow card for in the first half??!!)

36 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Yep, a disgrace.  The lad isn't even a proper professional,  nice lad but fecking limited to death as a player.  Shocking

Not sure if this is some kind of joke or not.

The lad scored three and got two assists last year. Showed flashes of brilliance in the first half of last year. Shockingly his form dipped after his best mate committed suicide.

got him on a free and he has just turned 19 so I’m sure his limited game can be improved.

2 hours ago, roverandout said:

Ings is 28. Armstrong 24. Hardly a big gap in age. Plus ings is a proven scorer

Ings is 29. Those five years are monumental. How much will Ings be worth aged 32? 7-10 million? Armstrong in three years will be 27 and at his peak, resale will be considerably higher if he performs.

second part I agree with, but again Ings has had two career threatening injuries, makes him a huge risk.

Haven’t posted for a while, but what a depressing start to a new season.

for the record I think we will survive…but only just. I also think our youth players will shine. Our first 11 is easily good enough to compete but bench…sheesh. 

Classic Tony, when the result doesn’t matter he will win a few games.

Happy with the win but he still needs shifting 

Is it bad of me to say that I didn’t know we were playing today and the result didn’t impact me in anyway.

Depressing that I feel this way about the club I love.

19 minutes ago, den said:

If Mowbray truly want to develop players - and I’ve no doubt he does - then the best way to do that is by playing them in a winning team isn’t it? It’s not easy to develop anyone when they’re on the losing side week in, week out. Sorry Tony, but using the idea of developing players ahead of winning games is ridiculous. You do both, don’t you? You seem to be using player development as an ax use for poor results.

As for the total dumbing down of supporters expectations from both Waggott and Mowbray, well it’s obvious that they don’t want to be judged against anyone or anything successful. Especially in the eyes of the owners.

Did they both not target top six this season or was that a dream I had?

Also this nonsense of developing players, I agree Den, you do both.

At the moment he seems to be developing players alright...the ones who play for other clubs!

I listened to two mins of that interview and switched off. That was directed at Venkys and no one else. 
The bit I’m confused is he kept saying only three clubs get promoted and you need to spend 100 million to get promoted.

Well issue with that is that there are four play off positions and then there are clubs who are in a position to at least challenge for those positions. Where are we??

doesn’t care if we are 9th or 16th...we the fans care and I pray Venkys care too. 

13 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

No mate. My connections are possibly better than his 😉

And incidentally, I’m not really one to give it any ITK crap, but I’m told by someone I trust implicitly, and that is in a position to know, that TM will be gone within a couple of days. 

Hope you are right. 
So based on what you are saying, the final straw just got broke off the camels back. 
 

I honestly believe that with a decent manager we have a top 6 squad. I would want someone proven like Wilder or someone up and coming/foreign.

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It is annoying when people (not just chaddy) who have unstinting backing a manager who should have been sacked 2 years ago have suddenly become so outspoken about him needing to be replaced within the last few weeks.

Nevertheless we now need to try and unite.

We need to try and maintain Championship status and preserve our infrastructure.

That equates with trying to oust the Coventrio from the Club ASAP imo.

I disagree, at the start of this season I could see some style of play and some good signings. At the start of this bad run we were a few points of the play offs. A number of us wanted to see how this season progressed. We have regresssed. He needs to go. Captain Hindsights are not needed, especially if you want to unite the club, we all want the same thing.

The only thing that is certain is that we will make another five changes for the next game.

1 win in 14 is awful. Mark my words we will win 3-4 on the bounce soon and Mr Confident will be talking play offs for next season.

Just now, Stuart said:

Fun fact: Henning Berg was sacked after one win in ten.

Venkys could fire him but record suggests not happening anytime soon.

Just now, Stuart said:

1 win in 14.

It would not happen at any other club.

I gave up on Tony many many weeks ago, this is torture now. I literally haven’t bothered to watch a game for a while.

All I know is anyone making four or five changes in every game...recipe for disaster.

If he plays Gally through the middle, then this is an interesting experiment. Tyrbull has looked ok and we have certainly got ballers in Dack and Buckley. This can go brilliantly or disastrously wrong. I want Dolan to do we today, I think he deserves a shot.

When is this undefeated streak that Tony is thinking is going to happen...going to happen?

Two kids at centre back, a new formation and a truckload of changes...when will Venkys pull the plug?

Lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

We have barely created a few chances in the last few games. He does have a point with injuries...however if you had a style of play that you truly believed in then you would play that in every game. You can't say we should be top six at the start of the season and when by Feb we are ten points adrift, expect criticism.

Mowbray needs to go, but he won't. So we can only hope that we stay clear of injuries.

Play your best team, play a system and you'll win games if your players are decent aka Derby County atm.

This is a sorry shambles. Can anyone predict next week's first 11? I could name about 6 and after that it's anyone's guess.

Josh King moving to everton for between 5-6 million.

That's about 1 million, 1.2 million for us. May explain the money for Pickering.

Two excellent signings today.

One for the present and one for the future.

By all accounts we signed Pickering because we have allowed him to go back to Crewe.

The conversation about signing loans Vs permanent is an excellent one. I think a balance of both is what we need and I think we have it just right atm. 

Who knows what we achieve in the next few months but I still feel Tony should move on at the end of the season.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Tbf he talks a lot of sense here.

I'd love to know the last time we picked an unchanged team.

Injuries are decimating the way we are playing atm as well as a rubbish pitch.

Great three points.

Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Overrated due to his goals. WTF. 

Tbf Mo Salah is similarly over rated then.

2 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Luton have just been robbed there.

We can’t lose this now. (The three points).

How have they been robbed??

Unless you've seen an angle of the goal that I haven't, it was offside.