Buy a 3-match ticket because we’ve made the first game so expensive it’s a “no brainer”.

Have to laugh. All the threes... fish, chips and peas... thirty-three ....percent Waggott tax if you rock up to bingo at the last minute. (You’re welcome for the free advertising Steve)

Very true indeed.

Butterworth did have a first team chance, and did very well but has been dropped by Mowbray - I suspect - never to be seen again unless forced by injury. To get into a Mowbray side you have to be (or become) defensively minded (his criticism of Rothwell and Holtby - two of our most technically gifted players) or given a free pass (such as his surrogate son, Adam Armstrong). Imho, Mowbray has no clue how to get the best out of quick or technical players - probably because he wasn't one himself - and tries to coach it out of them. In parallel, Damien Johnson was producing players of this ilk and not enough agricultural ones - probably because he wasn’t one himself. Next minute the successful apprentice is moved to the first team out of the way. If that is what he is trying to do, to make us a more defensive minded side, then that is fair enough. I don’t agree with that approach but could accept it if he was getting results, at this level. But if he is then why is he loaning out defenders (experienced and potential) and buying attacking midfielders (to convert rather than utilise). Is someone else buying Rothwells and Holtbys or can he really not see the problem? In other news, I hear that Mols has been dropped in favour of Smallwood in the Lancs Senior Cup?? Why is he even at the club, let alone blocking the progress of other players? If Mowbray has Smallwood in the squad for Saturday then needs firing. Out of a cannon!

It’s a joke. It’s like they are going out of their way to not attract new fans. Between the hostile pricing strategy, the brand of football, and poor results it’s testing the patience of ST holders who have already paid!

Forty. Three. Pounds. To watch Mowbray’s Rovers. Anyone paying that has too much money and deserves to be ripped off. The reality of course is that this is traded off against the three game offer - creating the illusion of ‘value’ and forcing people to buy three tickets instead of one. With such utter contempt for fans I genuinely hope this initiative is a huge failure, just as the £10,000 lottery-that-never-was was. Otherwise it’s a green light to Waggott to keep doing this. Overly complicate on the pitch and overly complicated off it. The fact Sheffield Wednesday are caught in the crossfire is collateral damage. Right now Rovers have worse problems. If they had anything about them they’d vote with their feet.

It’s an astonishing thing for anyone to do, to hang a 3-2 fight back around the neck of a goalkeeping error for the first goal. Sadly, it is our manager who took the lead in that particular line. That’s just awful man-management. There is a malaise at our club and Mowbray is becoming Teflon Tony when he should be the one taking responsibility for putting it right. If our players have any kind of professional loyalty the will expose him big time in the coming games. Has he lost the players yet? We will see.

The person who asked the question should have said yes. Patronising fans as though all judgements are made on one game. Or on this case one half. In days gone buy we’d be chanting “sack the board” by now.

It’s still a better deal than ours.

She may have overstated a little there. The bills may be £1m a month but Venkys aren’t paying all that. The accounts certainly don’t show £12m injections per season. More like £2m. It’s a shame you finish off your post with the little unintended defence of our custodians. They pay the bills because they have to and they won’t do the honourable thing and sell. They stay out of on-field decisions because football club owners bloody well should. They should certainly be more involved in off-field matters. You joined our ranks as a fan after the Raos rocked up and destroyed everything our club used to stand for. Kudos for that but please don’t patronise that we should be grateful to them.

Not even hearing any whispers of meetings taking place. From a certain point of view, the best signing the club has made during Mowbray’s tenure is Steve Waggott.

A very important point, not to be overlooked.

It’s not the same though, Ian. (Analogies are always risky). In your analogy, you (aka Mowbray) are not the home owner, you are the owner of the plumbing company with these plumbers working for you. Then one day you get calls from several customers complaining about the workmanship and other problems. You respond to these complaints saying “yeah, my guy made a mistake there, he has let the company down”. Then... You don’t deal with the plumbers you just keep sending them out on more jobs - especially the ones you get on with. You blame the apprentices. You don’t even apologise or accept responsibility. So would you really expect this to be sustainable? Bear in mind your customer base is the same locals who talk to each other and you cannot go and get new customers because the all have their own plumbers.

The legacy of Kean lives on. He is the yardstick by which all Venkys managers are judged. “Well he’s not as bad as Kean”. Nobody ever will be ever again. It was a wrecking ball that just kept on swinging through our beloved club. Sadly that means that poor managers now get a free pass - even more so if they have a nice guy persona. We deserve better. Nobody is guaranteed top flight football, nobody ‘deserves’ it, or has any divine right, but we do have a right to expect that the guy in the dugout is doing everything in his power to make that the aim. We should also be able to expect that the club should hold them to account for that aim. This is the constitution of any professional football club. Talking about teams like Preston - local rivals no less - as though they are miles ahead of us and the best we can hope to do is to try to compete with them is not in that constitution. The LT are complete no hopers when it comes to holding the club to account to that tacit ‘tribal contract’. They care only about the advertising revenue because nobody is prepared to pay for news any more in the ad-supported, data-selling, Internet age. So we can all blame ourselves for that. Why would the local rag side with the people when it makes its money out of local business? PL football covered an awful lot of cracks and was the proverbial self-licking lollipop. Generating crowds and income and news stories and entertainment and pride. Now look where we are.

I have. I still don’t agree. Mowbray is both accountable and responsible before, during and after games. This really isn’t about one game though. It’s about a continued failure to approach and react (before, during and after) game after game after game. He didn’t react in the Summer when he replaced our goalkeeper but kept the goalkeeping position just as poor as it had been. Same coach, same unchallenging understudy and yet made it a temporary role (probably as well). He made one of our poorer players captain through long-service, social media presence and because he is a tryer. He moves other players around game after game to accommodate him. He makes young players scapegoats for poor games and continues to have favourites on the field - game after game despite poor performances and results. This is his team, playing his way. He is totally responsible. This is a mindset not the odd individual error. As far as Mowbray seems to be concerned he has chalked this one down to Walton not claiming a poor cross that had gone just over him, and has already moved on to the next game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he picks Leutwiler to start the next game but then I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t. His team selections are so erratic that he has earned the nickname Tombola Tony. It’s embarrassing. Something has to change or we will be relegated.

Stop digging Ian! ? There’s a reason managers have subs to call on. I can only assume yesterday’s FM game was in Athletic mode rather than Tactical. We really shouldn’t be pointing at one moment as being irreversible or somehow irretrievable. If that one moment changed the entire match (as Mowbray seemed to suggest yesterday) then our problems run much deeper. For someone so honourable he does seem to dig his players out pretty regularly and deflects any blame. Contrast with Hasenhuttl who, despite being a player down after 12 minutes, took full responsibility for his team’s complete no show. A good man manager will take the flak in public and hammer the players in private. Mowbray seems to do the opposite.

Another player Mowbray kept dropping. It can’t always be the player, can it?

Maybe this is who the uber fans take their cues from. People like Gally, Garner, Dunny who all back the incumbent because they never know who they might need a favour from at the club.

This is wrong. Managers make decisions days, weeks even months ahead, not kick to kick. When those decisions result in the team playing as poorly and inconsistently as ours is then that’s down to the manager. Individual mistakes happen from time to time, with us it’s every week - no matter who plays. Players make mistakes when they doubt themselves or their teammates. It’s easy to see why this can happen under Mowbray, who drops players in form in order to rotate - apparently because some players aren’t technical or athletic enough or capable of understanding tactics. Confidence must be at an all time low.

And with the money he has spent he has no real excuses.

Please. Just don’t. This isn’t about one match, let alone one half. Funny though that the only person advocating that we keep Mowbray is a fan of the team who beat us today. Maybe you are genuine, maybe you are on the wind-up. Either way, leave it out.

Just can’t see any team in a relegation battle reaching out to Mowbray.

A lot of water under the bridge on this score. We certainly can’t claim to be ‘the pride of Lancashire’ at the moment. Burnley, Preston, Accy can all hold their heads higher than us right now. That’s not Mowbray’s fault per se but the club’s lack of ambition, and inability to act when other clubs would, is holding us back. So called stability seems to be around the livelihoods of millionaire managers and players while the fans have to watch like rubber necking at a car accident. I don’t even feel angry about today’s results. It just seems so typical of our situation. I was more upset when PNE got an injury time equaliser against the run of play at Ewood three seasons ago. It was a hammer blow. Today was just what I’ve come to expect from Mowbray.

A very balanced, honest assessment. Cheers.

Possible. But I would be shocked if he was. It will be weeks until the next Venkys meeting.