Burnley after Cahill apparently.

TM's plans should be teased out.

We won't get bigger crowds till and if we are back in the Premiership.

The first kit we wore after promotion to the Premiership in 1992 was very dark. Loved it personally.

You're making the mistake of assuming that £18M would then be available for TM to spend on new players. And that he'd spend it right.

Gets my vote for "Rover of the Season". How long is his contract?

Both legs a bit strange. No way should Liverpool have lost 3-0, should have had at least 2. Same goes for Barcelona last night. Sanchez alone should have had 2 but shot weakly and Messi needs his sights adjusted. One goal and Liverpool would probably have been out of it. However that was as brave an effort from an English team as I ever remember. The pure joy that flowed down from the stands gave me goosebumps.

A season is too long.

I do too but I'd like him back.

4 out of 6 in the North-West! Symbolic of the way the country is going.

I don't recall your original post referring specifically to defenders. As I remember you were talking about the team. We are all unhappy about the defence----the goals against column speaks for itself. But while TM is "unhappy", it didn't create itself did it? It his defence and he's been here for more than 2 seasons.

True. I thought about him after I posted but I listed enough to make the point?

Isn't Raya to have face surgery in this off-season? No coincidence that his form went off after that "assault" v West Brom. Surely we have to see how he recovers? That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign another keeper, I hope we do but I wouldn't write off Raya yet. Had too much responsibility too soon, needed an older keeper to watch and learn from.

105 1st team appearances for Rothwell, 97 for Nyambe! But bizarrely we seem to be agreeing! You say above he's been the scapegoat and I agree! Should have played more-------yes?

The whole point of my post was that we haven't kept playing him!! Whether he's experienced or not he's still one of those young players who hasn't played enough! Are you still saying he isn't young whereas Rothwell is?

He's 21!! Seems young to me full stop!

Rothwell----Oxford, not the same as the Championship. You do realise that Nyambe at 21 is 2 years younger than Rothwell?

We also need to stop changing the team every week and we need everyone playing in their best positions

Yes really! They are the ones I was thinking of! Thanks. Both became regulars too late. But Macgloire, Chapman ,Nyambe, Davenport and Buckley could have been given more chances and they certainly didn't have time to prove much. Nyambe is a bit different, he had an extensive run early on but latterly hasn't featured.

I don't mind "giving them an opportunity". The problem is that the 'opportunity" lasted the whole season or most of it. And it came at the expense of younger players who proved they could do better.

The local paper said the first half was pretty even but we pulled away in the second half!

You can point out issues with various players to justify their lack of regular starting time but the trouble is you could make out a much bigger case against the ones he kept selecting. Agree we need another first choice centre-back. Have been saying so since last summer.

If we are to be promoted I agree that TM will have to drastically change his methods and approach. I don't know whether he can but I fear the alternatives, given Venkys past record. Its a real dilemma. However Venkys make the decisions and they seem to rate him highly so I bet he will remain manager for sometime yet whether he wakes up or not.

And therefore ridiculous that he didn't play more often earlier.