And if we are good its down to Mowbray's managing and if we are crap its not his fault?

Another way of looking at it-----despite the manager's performance we have survived. Could and should have been so much better.

Then he's wrecked our season hasn't he? Should have put it on a horse!

apart from Conway who never has 2 good games in a row!

Duggie wouldn't have got a game!

Mowbray is an average manager and always has been. He only looked really special to us because of his predecessors.

It makes him look bonkers. What planet is he on?

Boro,Stoke,Leeds to be promoted?? Could get one of them!!

I would love to see him signed up and starting every week in his favoured CM position. Not going to happen is it?

Yes! We can only speculate as to how many points we would have accumulated had the selections been different. And its not "in hindsight"!!

No, you're confused. People are not going to get carried away on the basis of one win after a long, dreadful period of losing. Except you of course.

Conway invariably returns to play well and is invisible in the next game. So I suppose you could make a case out for him playing every other game!

Utter crap!! How about "one win and the Happy Clappers are back'? That is actually less offensive. An unnecessary post on a night when all Rovers fans rejoice.

Fair enough, its been a long wait for you! Since you're one who always takes the long view you're not going to lose your perspective over one game -----are you?

How have you been proven wrong? You were right and TM has left it too late to wake up!

Its never about the one game. Victories are always something to be joyful about but they don't, in an instant wipe away the memories of the last few months. You should focus on how many times Dack and Rothwell have started and wonder why?

Saw a clip recently of Jason playing for the England under-20's and near to Danny Rose! Unimaginable to think of those two in the same side. Some push on and some go backwards.

He's too slow?

Ridiculous that we should even have to be thinking about this all the same. Its not impossible that we could fail to win another point this season. The team is dying before our eyes.

I think TM has been blinded by his success in Div 1 last season. He promised the guys who stuck with us after relegation that he would stick with them. And he has---even though it was obvious some months ago that they were not good enough. Worse he's extended contacts so access to first team places is still bunged up. We run the risk of losing our best players and our young players who will soon have to think of a future elsewhere. We could lose the players who can take us forward and retain the ones who can't.

That selection on Saturday was the last straw for me. That line-up has failed over and over again so why believe something would change against Stoke? To leave out Travis and Reed from the starting line-up is beyond belief. Mowbray has lost it and won't find it again with us. Carrying too much baggage now. We have some attractive attacking players, our defence is crap. A few decent signings in summer and we are ready to go. However Mowbray is not the man to carry it through.

And women! Thinking of Theresa here!!

Hindsight?? FFS! Yours---definitely not mine.

That really is unanswerable. There really is no point giving him another transfer window based on how he's done before. I voted to give him till summer and then reassess but that was before we achieved 1 win in 12 games and ten losses. I wasn't expecting to see the season drag to an end in such a humiliating fashion. I wasn't expecting to be looking over our shoulders at the bottom three and praying they don't somehow catch up. I have no faith he can turn things round next season for the reasons benhben has given.