And women! Thinking of Theresa here!!

Hindsight?? FFS! Yours---definitely not mine.

That really is unanswerable. There really is no point giving him another transfer window based on how he's done before. I voted to give him till summer and then reassess but that was before we achieved 1 win in 12 games and ten losses. I wasn't expecting to see the season drag to an end in such a humiliating fashion. I wasn't expecting to be looking over our shoulders at the bottom three and praying they don't somehow catch up. I have no faith he can turn things round next season for the reasons benhben has given.

The way we need to pay"more attention to defence" isn't really about selection, its about the quality of defenders available. Many of us pointed out the need to recruit defenders in January and said that January was a failure on this basis. And I think I made the same point last July but I couldn't swear to it! Who's the best of a bad lot dodges the issue.

Very common for a post to be mocked, then what you predicted comes true!. At that point you're told "its easy with hindsight"!!

Going on past behaviour, Venkys will cling to TM till its too late, then appoint Johno who will have to build us again from Div 1.

Better late than never I suppose.

Thought exactly the same thing. He knows what's wrong and he's going to fix it! So why not in January? Its the defence!!!! Why is he always months behind the fans? Next he'll be saying we need a more settled side with players in their best position!

and they score in the 87th,88th and 92nd!

If he's out of contract no way will we give up on him! He's a defender so this is the going rate for us.

I think we'll get pasted.

Well there's younger than him in there!

BBBBBBBBBBB!

You're absolutely right of course. We who love our pets often ignore the very real and mass cruelty that continues in the farming industry. Its out of sight but the clue is in the term"slaughter-house". I try to help in my own little ways. I only eat red meat once a week, I only eat free range chicken, and we only buy free-range eggs. I also contribute monthly to animal protection societies and I sign all the petitions they send me and write to MP's regularly on specific issues they present to me. I only eat free range pork as well. All pathetically inadequate I know but I'm getting too old to change any more substantially. I do have faith in the younger people though and the way veganism continues to take off and I do believe that global warming and population growth will, in time, end many of the most objectionable practices in the food industry. In the meantime I have to live with myself as best I can in the knowledge that my various efforts are pathetically inadequate.

I abhor animal cruelty. I don't know if East Lancashire has a bigger problem than elsewhere or not but if the LT highlights it, then its performing an essential function of the media, which is holding up a mirror to its readers to show how our society is functioning. Lack of respect for animals morphs into lack of respect for humans and its a sign of our somewhat depressing times. I've never been a "hang em, flog em" type of person but the absurdly light penalties we hand out to people who neglect and torment animals makes my blood boil. Sorry, rant over (cuddles up to West Highland Terrier!)

I don't know if you realise it but that is a pretty damning criticism of the manager. Its not other teams we've worked us out, its other managers and its up to our manager to react. Change the team around, freshen it up, stop expecting a different outcome from the same approach. Play people in their best positions for a start. But above all, its that defence that needs fixing. If it can't be done with the current personnel then fair enough we have to wait till summer. But if TM messes it up again then, as far as I'm concerned, he's finished.

Can't agree with you. Watched him recently and he was much better than that. Just as he was against then Premier League Swansea.

Even if we started now!

I'm like Parson----I'm taking the long view! That's the worst scenario by the way, quite possible that some other group will pick up the baton from Venkys and we can build again. No-one knows when and from one point but I don't believe we will cease to exist permanently.

No ned for such pessimism imo. I honestly believe there will always be a Blackburn Rovers. Accrington Stanley did it, so can we. Short-term ?,long-term There will be people who will say that its not the same Accrington Stanley that died, and from the lawyers' point of view they are right. From the fans' point of view, there is absolutely no difference at all.

If he's Ewood Sparks, you're right!

Much to their regret I'm sure!

I think he's played 21 games for Lincoln/Bury this season. Interestingly he's played 6 times for Bury and scored 2 goals----that's 2 more than Brereton!

The thing is Wharton might be fed-up being shunted out every season and prefer to tale his own chances with another club. One criticism of TM that resonates with is that he takes too long to give promising youngsters their chance. Presumably all part of the "esprit de coeur" he tries to create. Translation-----too loyal to his senior players when they don't produce.

Dack used too.....