1 hour ago, JHRover said:

What isn't good enough is this manager and his coaching staff.

Everything else flows from that.

Doesn't matter who we sign or play if the dugout stays the same.

As will the tactics, the tombola and the couldn't give a shit win lose or draw attitude.

1 hour ago, WIR Second Coming said:

Yup., complete with Gurnsutony Phil....

 

I'd much prefer Phil in charge he gets straight to the point.

7 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

“If we win then that’s fine, it doesn’t really matter.”

 

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19285004.rovers-selection-clues-come-chelsea-tonight/

 

Don't bother turning up lads, doesn't matter either way.

No point in tuning in either, the manager doesn't even give a toss.

A great philosophy to take into next season right there.

4 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Lots of passengers on Tony's bus.

Does it have 'We need 100 million to finish above 10th' written on the side i wonder ?

9 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Heard a rumour Ryan might turn up at the nobbers.

Absolutely shameful if that happens and it only reflects on one thing, the management here.

If that didn't make the Midtable Messiah's little bunch of clueless groupies wake up then nothing ever would.

8 hours ago, Angry_Pirate said:

"I pigeon-hole Corry as a destructive, simplistic footballer rather than being creative.”

Doesn't sound like Tony to pigeon-hole a player (incorrectly.) 🤡

For what it's worth, my ITK down at Ewood gave an "Oh, absolutely, 100%!" repsonse to if he was under the impression DinoMowbs would be Rovers manager next season. 🤮

Officially DONE. 4,000 ST sales - if we're lucky.

 Why doesn't Mowbray just describe him as what he is ?

A tidy basic defensive mid rather than that claptrap.

Simplistic is a fair comment of Evans though i suppose, along with injury prone, piss taking country before club passenger.

Longest serving player leaving should be getting plaudits but i'm just glad the charade is over. He's been decent in patches for us but overall he should have been moved on 2 years ago.

This time next season i hope another charade is over as well !

1 hour ago, Stuart said:

Crewe used to churn out talent and sell them off the conveyor belt to top clubs. When was the last time Mowbray developed a player, let alone sold one to a top club?

All his eggs are in the Armstrong basket on that front.

It would have been in motion with Dack a year or so ago if all had gone to plan i reckon. Think this season was always going to be project Armstrong so it'll be interesting to see if any realistic bids actually come in.

If they do and he goes then just watch next season they'll be concentrating and setting up to get the best out of A N other.  Team and results are irrelevant he's already let that out the bag. He's lining his tag lines up for selling Arma, he goes for 10 million plus and his words ring true.

There you go iv'e worked on Armstrong for a season and raked back in the BB and Gallagher investment. Next season we'll work on Ben or Travis being the focal point of the team. Doesn't really matter where we finish in the eyes of the bean counters as long as it isn't in the bottom 3.

Pretty sure that's the type of plan, top 6 talk is just that in order to gather interest from fans and sponsors etc.

Best job in this league he has, no chance he's walking away unless he's pushed or hounded.

Proof that the possession game only works well enough to count for anything when you have a team of proper quality players. That applies whatever level you are at and in the championship if you are good at it it'll deliver midtable, lower if you aren't.

Banged on about it half a dozen times before but for those who remember Gradis Crewe that's what we'll become. Forget Brentford these lot are nowhere capable of delivering even that.  

What they have in mind is a nice neat football side with enough about it to sit around tenth place. Whilst growing players to sell, blooding youth and running freebies and loans through the books. Very handy all that if you have close agent friends and all that's been missing so far is that one big sale to kick it all off.

That's probably down to the owners more than anything, still under the impression keeping it all together will yield top 6 under the Teeside babbler.  Meanwhile him and Waggo can't wait to get the ball rolling and show their plan is coming to fruition. Several thousand fans fall into line with this having been brainwashed into thinking that's all modern day BRFC with it's billionaire owners and potentil backing are capable of.

Not clued up enough to ask the question why clubs like Preston etc keep out performing us. Can't possibly be the management ?  Must be the owners !  Can't possibly be the owners they keep pouring money in !  Must be the fans, or lack of them ???

Once the owners fully buy into this ( signs they are ) then we are fooked. Always said we'd end up being the Rovers of the early/mid 80's again - without the promotion daliances.

Just an old boys club bobbling along on ave 8k gates. Only difference will be instead of being truly skint but not in debt we'll be pouring millions down the drain in backing every season. Yet debt will still be mounting.

Holtby highlights the problem with signing planers from Euro leagues and taking punts on injury prone guys no matter how much talent they might have.

They are just too damn fragile for this English Championship and the demands of it. Plus you'd assume the high levels of training that goes with it.

If we had a big budget/parachute money and an already good midfield, one where someone like him could just give us another option for a dozen games a season and a few subs then fair enough. Not the case here though we need every drop we can squeeze from players and budget and we need horses for courses.

Best option imo as seen with the likes of Elliot & Reed before him is too loan in bits of real quality. Then of course the real key to it all, one where we fall down too often, is use them frigging properly !

1 hour ago, Paul Mani said:

I’m more interested in what happens after the Birmingham game...🤞🏽👀🥊

Groundhog summer.

There'll be no vacancy until about October then it'll be someone from within stepping up.  Followed a browse of the usual HSH scrapheap to see if there's another Mowbray on there.

Meanwhile he'll have his feet up in Teeside looking for his next pension contributor. 

A resounding 4-1 win to finish off a wretched season and paper over the cracks that will be apparent again by Sept.

Facebook crew break through the security and carry Mowbray on their shoulders all the way to RVC planning offices.  Give our messiah the tools he needs to make us into Brentford they cry.

9 minutes ago, rigger said:

People are comparing the attributes of Bell and Douglas, which seem to be speed or crossing the ball. Personally I want my defenders primary asset, to be the ability to defend. Get rid of both. I hope/pray Pickering can defend.

This.

What use is one without the other !  Being able to skin a man with pace going forwards or bang in good crosses and set pieces are just a bonus. Defending is the primary job and i'd be interested to see the stats on that between both. Doubt that's something Mowbray would crow about like he does the possession stuff.

2 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Bell is a League One player at best

If they let him go on a free that's where he'll end up again no doubts, like a few others we've carried too long.

15 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Bell has been poor since he joined, we've needed to improve on the left back position for years.

BUT for Mowbray, signing him up to a new contact is easy, cheap (assuming it is) fills a squad place for a position we need.

Unfortunately for us, its lazy and unambitious. 

Perfect opportunity to get rid now with Pickering coming in. Loan in another more established one and have the new lad fighting it out with him.

4 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

What does that even mean?

Is 'H' a word or secret code known only to certain types?

Serious question by the way.

Edit: I get incorrect spelling so no need to go all school room.

You didn't watch Line of Duty then ?

It's fair enough having one good top potential talent belonging to someone else in the team as long as they are there on merit. Elliot was that for sure, Tosin the season before.

Ending the season with at times 3 of them in there isn't good at all though you can't be having them as the core of the team. We could have ended up with something like 5 regulars belonging to someone else.  That's not a good look and doesn't reflect well on Mr Development of his building of his side.

The owners probably loved the fact though half the teams wages are paid by other clubs. In their deluded minds this will be representing good business. Because Mowbray and the other goon say it is.

2 minutes ago, perthblue02 said:

If you read the tweet thread he is just visiting the training ground (standing outside), then doing some stuff /workshops in Clitheroe Tomorrow.

So 'I'm setting off for Ewood Park' seems nothing more than a clickbait exercise.

I hope Waggot doesn't see him outside he'll be asking him in for an estimate !

Sounds like there's nothing in it....other than coincidence of course.

1 minute ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Does anyone know what Bauer is earning at Preston ?

I can’t imagine it being half of that. He needs calling out on this bs

They had a wage ceiling of 10k allegedly although uncle Trev might have allowed a bit more in the odd cases.

I heard they gave him a big signing on fee and 4 year deal in order to sign him. Either way it'll not add up to 40k pwk.   More like 15 i'd wager.

17 hours ago, darrenrover said:

The Editor of the LT refused point blank, a fully paid up advert of the banner "www.protectjackwalkerslegacy.com" directing fans to Revidgeblues open letter to Steve Waggott.

So, go figure.....never in a month of Sundays is The Lancashire Telegraph ever going to ruffle any feathers regarding the current regime at Rovers. Don't waste your breath contemplating it.

I'd suggest that we all boycott the rag!

Who is the editor though ?   Does he or anyone else for thet matter have any genuine affinity to Rovers or the town even ?

Or are they all just paid employees of a much larger corporation, just going through the motions ticking certain boxes, filling inches. In a get the job done with as little fuss as possible operation.

1 hour ago, ben_the_beast said:

I think we are desperate. Both Bell and Pickering for the price of Douglas wages. I do think with some of these contract renewals we haven't got a pot to piss in. So it's an area we can save a few quid. Which makes some sense. But we're desperate for Pickering to be good if Bell is the back up. 

On a separate note... It really grinds my gears that Mowbray is saying that he's not going to risk exposing out of contract players to injury as he did last season due to looking out for player welfare. In isolation I can understand that. But the players who he did that with last year were all given 3 month contract extensions. That grated at the time with them not being involved but now we know there was a 'gentlemen's agreement' not to involve them. That and pointless signings such as Downing, an area we were well over stocked in. Ainsley Pears when we had already brought in a capable number 1 and 2. It's no wonder we've got no money and can't afford to renew the contracts of our actual assets.

It reminds me of teams in large businesses who make an effort at the end of the financial year to spend the remainder of their budget on anything since they know it will vanish otherwise. Mowbray dishes out any excess to his boys. As he's an honourable chap.

Exactly.

He's just running it how he wants to run it by the looks of it with this 'integrity' line being in the case of the players. He really must be known as great uncle Tony because all he seems bothered about is looking after them.

I said 12 months ago he'd make a better player welfare officer than a top 6 chasing manager. The guy is playing his own game at this club whilst wasting someone else's money. It's a really cosy little set up and ambition is nowhere near the driving force.

3 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

With the contracts of Evans, Johnson, Trybull & Bennett all expiring, in addition to Holtby being let go, from a purely squad numbers point of view it's inevitable most of these will be offered new deals.

That's a lot of midfielders to replace in one window.

Terrible planning.

I think that's why there hasn't been any real planning because they are just assuming most will sign an extension.

Evans will be here until they carry him out he'll never get a gig like this anywhere. Johnson will probably join Holtby in the exit room or maybe we'll resign him late in the window, if he can't sort anything out and is desperate enough for a pay cut.

Trybull will be replaced with another loanee and Bennett i 100% expect him to be offered something. Probably a seat at Mowbrays desk like Smallwood !

He may though be happy to leave if he's guaranteed to play elsewhere.