We are firmly at the crossroads now, we've stuck in the past with stability and empty words. Now it's time to twist it's as simple as that.

I'd rather land in the middle of the division somewhere at least looking like we've had a genuine go for most of it. Than go round in the inevitable circles we have been with an attitude of 'oh well it is what it is' whilst some feather their own needs and we end up midtable anyway.

We need some va va voom back in the club.

A new contract for him means relegation at some point in the next couple of years. Alongside the lowest average gates since 1990.  Some idiots amongst our fanbase are still deluded enough to think we are still going to go upwards under him and Waggot.

They've no intention of trying for that even if funds and the platform is there.

Are the owners still stupid enough to buy this ?   Yes probably especially when being they are doubtless being fed propaganda by the guys safety buffer CEO and his agency. Helped bizarrely by the naive urchins who claim they want change but run around compiling stats that give the illusion his system is actually working.

You couldn't make it up, then again you don't need to with these guys around and Venkys at the helm.

3 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Which is totally unique to TM’s reign. I’ve never known us have a manager that has such bombproof support from a sizeable strand of the fanbase. It’s almost cult like... yet he’s done absolutely nothing to earn this exulted status.

It's the social media era though and consider the agency/s connected with Rovers. All far too obvious at times there are propaganda machines at play. Facebook and twitter and especially the LT is where they thrive. Not as easy on forums where most know what they are talking about and quickly rip them to shreds.

PR companies have paid people who take this stuff on and run multiple accounts. When you get into a row with some of these opinions that just seem opposite for the sake of it about 50% of the time you'll find them to clearly be bullshitters with an agenda but no real other SM presence.

There's a reason they rarely pitch up on the likes of here, i had 2 trolling me yesterday on twitter. Both jumping to Mowbrays defense but their tag lines being 'done great things here', 'nice guy he shouldn't get stick'.  Yet when engaged in actual football matters neither could offer any kind of argument or point.  It always went straight back to the same thing, being offended on his behalf because he was getting stick.

Half of them are cranks not real rovers fans and that's a fact. Some somewhere are fighting against the tide on his behalf and someones request.  I'm sure it happens at other places as well.

I'll never get people, young or older, switching teams. Sorry but it's just not an option i'm afraid. I can exclude kids who are so easily swayed by tv football but to just up sticks to another club you're fond of because your so called 1st love is now a bit crap ...?

Nah, you might stop attending or just get totally fed up with football but hiking off to watch someone else miles away.  Poor show really but each to their own i suppose in this era it's seen as more of an acceptable thing.

People say give him credit when they win because he gets stick when they lose. These days yes but thats not always been the case. Normally i'd try and balance it by saying fair play to the manager.

Just can't after that though it was just another hit and miss game we could easily have lost. Probably should've been a draw but despite less possession we probably showed more direct intent than in 3 games normally.  I'd much prefer that sort of performance and result most weeks. Bit of a hark back to before he went possession/stats mad.  Poor opposition though does it for us again.

Some of the subs there were very risky considering we really needed that result. Not really the time to just be throwing bods on for a few mins just to keep them happy. Could so easily have backfired and wasn't worth the risk. That's him all over though, if a jumble of a manager.

2 minutes ago, alcd said:

Travis looks like a carthorse. Gives the ball away and seems to be in a mental fog.

He's someone who definitely hasn't improved this season. Probably being coached to play like Evans though knowing these lot.

Let's just get these 3 points in the bag 

2 minutes ago, Roverinbelfast said:

For me Mowbray had enough credit in the bank to see this season through and walk away with his head held high. If that doesn't happen then he is taking the piss

We are a few months into that territory i'm afraid.

We need to stay up first and foremost, that needs sealing asap.

It's a toss between what would keep him here more, 5 straight wins or relegation.

That's the stupidity of it with this ownership, his fate should already be decided regardless of what happens next. He absolutely knows he's on borrowed time as far as most fans are concerned. So it needs him to do the decent thing once a couple of wins are bagged.

Here's how it'll work out, we'll win tonight and maybe go until end of season unbeaten.

Everything is in place now for players to motivate themselves. New contracts, extensions, moves and just plain relief this ballache season is nearly done, beach in sight.

Mowbrays motivation is obviously non existent as we usually see for most of the middle thirds of every season. However there is more to play for for quite a few beyond just points for little old plodding along BRFC and their docile gaffer.

Then after a turbulent summer for different reasons to the last one everybody trudges to Ewood in August.  All 6k of us, just knowing that however we start it's not if but when it all turns to a death spiral again.

Rinse and repeat, those worried about Tony's feelings though on twitter and facefook will be happy in the knowledge he's got another 500k in his bank.

28 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

It could be the cost of the regular audits of Blackburn Rovers, plus the cost to prepare VLL accounts.

It seems to go beyond a few hundred grand per year though.

Just wondering if there might be some on the VLL payroll drawing money out of it that way. Or they are funding other stuff through VLL and that might explain a few things. Iv'e often wondered does ALL the money they send over to VLL find its way into the club or is there something else at play.

Wonder what happened to the 3 million they invested in Acons venture ?

What overheads could VLL have that isn't relevant to Rovers accounts ?

Supposedly it's just a shell company to own and fund Rovers via the VH group/Venkys

I don't think there's much to gain money wise in the places.

More important in our position to keep fans interested and help attract players. 

Obviously though along with results it doesn't matter anymore.

7 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Mowbray says Rovers have 'lots to play for' with Derby incentive | Lancashire Telegraph

“I feel that when Adam is available he gives us an extra threat in behind, extra tightness with the ball, and our expected goals goes up when he’s in the team"

Oh do fuck off. 

His mouthpiece twitter account has been DMing him again.

It's what he passes off as development that is the worrying thing.  Gallagher in various positions, BB cameo's, dropping Nyambie every now and then, Bells cameo's, rotating midfielders game in game out, Elliot or Dolan, those two moved artound varios positions. There's more...

All that just adds to the clusterfuck of no balance, no partnerships developing and long periods of no wins rocketing down the leagues.

Yet this is what he sees as development, my god these owners really are thick as pig shit. It was inevitable though that at some point Mr Integrity and his friends would start taking the piss. Once they know how it really rolls here and how far they can push it.

There's a few other things in the mix in favour of the pitch now to be fair. No rain for a week or so, grass starting to grow properly and no games on it for a while. You'd expect it to have settled a bit, helped by the hard graft of the grounds team of course.

Training on it when they did was either the work or a real dumbo or a conniving tosser.

Jury's out on that one.

He must be referring to parachute money with his 100 million line so he's basically saying only clubs with that get promoted.  White flag waver.

This is on the back of saying you have to dominate possession and the ball to get promoted. Iv'e been banging on ever since he changed system it's no good for a club like us or the players he has and signs. How many average sides suddenly change style and football their way out of this league ?

Non, so yes you need money to sign better to players to do that, he's right there. So why in the name of almighty god did he just decide on a whim to try it here ???

You need to mix it up, be strong aggressive and in the face to prosper in this div without the luxuries a big relegated club might have. If he'd done some of that after lockdown last season when we'd nothing to lose we might have landed in the play offs. He'd no frigging intention of it though he bottled it, nothing is clearer now he's been stringing it along as long as he can.

The Coventry job was too big for this faker as was Boro so why do we expect something out of the ordinary here ?   He's more suited to somewhere like Chesterfield he can't handle the remotest bit of ambition or expectation. Yet it seems him and his mates are being allowed to dumb down Rovers to a level THEY are comfortable with.

Someone needs to get in the owners ears and quick.

He talks about 100 million which is complete bull shit along the lines of Bauer wants 40k pwk.  This is the guy who claims he steered the owners to spend their money on investments like Brereton and Gallagher.

Plenty managers would've used that money if it was on offer to get into the top 6. Not this dweeb though, no real plan, no real idea how to do it and not really arsed.

1 hour ago, WIR Second Coming said:

Fook me those are some boring dudes... XG?? Get to feck...

Ah the 'we want TM replaced but we'll dig out every conceivable stat we can find to try and prove he's doing it right' gang !

Every tweet liked by Dan Clough 🙄

Obviously these lads are performance fans not result ones, they don't do league tables either.

13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

What would give him that impression?

 

He is the journalistic equivalent of a virtue signaler when it comes to this regime.

Trouble is they get to know some of these guys at the club on a personal level and that shines through.  It shouldn't the club, fans and results should always be the priority. 

I couldn't see Lambert doing much different to TM but it would have been interesting to see how he invested money.  He was a bit more agricultural and organized than Mowbrays sides. I think he'd have started with defense that's for sure, would he have pished 12 million on BB & SG unless he had to ?

Doubt it but to be fair TM has brought in some good players and loans and blooded some good youth. The fact he clearly hasn't got the first clue how to mould a best starting 11 out of them is the main issue.  So he's hidden behind development, transition, possession, pitch, various other clubs models, injuries, journey, training ground and now back to money again.

He's gone the full circle twice over in every aspect and besides just imagine Mowbray coming in here with no Graham or bennett.....Lamberts signings.