There's still external debt in the form of overdraft that will be heading towards its limit no doubt. I'm pretty sure that's be pinned on the club and its assets so that's the thing to watch. Probably around 15 million and it'll have interest and charges so that for me is what those in Ewood will want to keep under control. The owners pay enough in to cover wages etc but not sure they'd want to wipe that off or a large lump of it. Doesn't seem to work like that with them. As for Pr Mani well like a few others he conveniently chooses to omit the last time something like this happened. For whatever reason Vs turned the taps off at the wrong time, or down to a trickle at least. The club had to borrow left right and center to keep going then the sales began. Of course by then we ended up under embargo so it couldn't be reinvested so for a spell we signing utter dross off the usual client lists. Still wracked up a million or more in agents fees though, they didn't go hungry. No cash buys for several years until Williams for a few hundred grand. As we know all that led to relegation. These circumstances are odd now though we've gone from looking in a reasonably healthy position compared to any other time under their ownership. To possibly a very precarious one but the club has plenty assets now, just a question of when not if the auction starts.

Think it's obvious the whole plan set down with the audits etc then some big lumps of money coming in only directed at young British u24 forwards. Grow a side to sell and invest a bit up top to hopefully get big premium prices down the line, relegation reset the clock for all that in a way. You'd hope this time the idea was to sell one regularly to keep the ball rolling and try and keep the rest to keep building a good side. However you never know with this lot and covid could be the blame this time. Last time it was FFP ( and the falling share prices of VH ). So it could well be a fire sale again over the next 18 months like last time rather than the conveyor belt. I'm sure those in the middle with something to gain will be breathing in ears again, not a lot Mowbray can do about that to be fair. Unless they are all interlinked of course. Still the search for willing buyers and good prices might just be the saving grace this time as it won't be so easy i wouldn't have thought. Promotion/top 6 is and always has been just a tag line, something they just hope will happen one day when the gods smile on us.

Maybe they are going to let everyone in for free. The Venky revolution !! Oh sorry the boss here says it has to be evolution.

Corporate idiots only employ other corporate idiots it's always been the case. No wonder this slippery snake ended up at Ewood. Wonder what he'll talk his way into next ?

Yep their middlemen won't bother too much player values will be up again.

So the moneyball player trading system comes up short. The get in quality, play it in the right areas and build your side around it doesn't.

He should have been aware Walton did as well.

Agents on holiday during a transfer window ? Really ? !

Future years back to normality might see riverside shut, 7k regulars in two sections of the ground paying as much as can be squeezed out of them. Waggot still on 300 grand a year 'doing all he can' .

I think that's because it probably comes from the football budget set and supplied by the owners. Plenty will milk that for all it's worth. The rest i.e STs etc are allegedly for stuff outside of the playing side like the ground and staff so there's probably bugger all left in that.

Mentality - Good point. That starts right at the top and i think the lack of urgency reflects right through to manager and team. They all know that say the right things first and foremost and just do enough to be ok over the season is almost guaranteed to be met with 'As you were' in Pune. The less hassle for everybody the better. Nobody wants unwarranted pressure or crazy expectations but a good shake up and kick up the arse regularly is how things get done and targets get met.

The midfield and it's options are a country mile better than anything containing Lowe & Guthrie. Also a lot better than Willowe or Lowe & Evans, Bowyers achilies heel. It's the turning possession into positive possession or dominant possession i'm struggling to see on match days. Only seems to work against certain teams. Moving it quickly and aggressively back to front without the hoof is something that still needs a lot of work. For that imo we still some some pace and delivery not strikers out wide, also it has to be built from a solid back 4 and keeper. If we really are to transition into something like that the recruitment needs to be better than its been since the promotion season.

All about the timing of the runs as well as transfer windows with this midtable team and set up. We have good runs and bad as we've seen inconsistency rules. So, handily placed and a good run can mean a play off challenge as could have happened recently. A real bad un at the back end of the season if we aren't upper mid could easily see us drop right in it there's times we can't buy a win. Solid signings needed and prayers that the bad streaks come early and mid like usual.

Now that would make complete sense and highlights the way the do things. The way i said the other week complete scattergun arse about tit. Going into a window needing a keeper and defenders then hearing somebody else in a different position you know and like is available & doable. So altering everything to accommodate that instead which is exactly what i heard about the Bauer thing and you can probably lump Gallagher into that system as well. No real logic to it at all just grab what you can whilst you can it's not hard to see why set ups like Preston out perform us every season.

Mahonney when he was here, Hart another bit of an odd signing at the time and now the Wharton situation. All 3 with the same agent, perhaps he's hard work but it seems like he's another doing alright out of Rovers. Add in Mowbrays remarks about Wharton about 2 years ago that he's repeated recently, upper body strength. When he makes those kind of remarks it's usually looking for excuses.

To me it just sounds like him touching base with a player he knows and fancies having. Then basically just saying look if you don't get sorted and we have any funds near the end of the window we'll try and do something. Doubt there's anything more to it than that meanwhile it's now out there so other interested parties can act and TM gets a thank you card for getting the ball rolling !

He's ex Boro though isn't he ? Blind eyes might get turned ?

I get that but it doesn't make the player feel that wanted either. It's a non starter now if imo.

Knowing Mowbray he probably followed it up with 'but if you can get yourself sorted somewhere first you do so son'

Well surely it's an invitation to both player and agent to ask for top dollar.

Seems the classic scenario of the last few seasons, court someone decent then say we'll get back to you. If you want someone the sign them whilst you have the chance otherwise why bother, oh yes just so you can say you've tried !!!!! They shouldn't even be wasting his time the whole focus should be keeper and defense although i'm not having it Mowbrays sat there and told a player we have a pot of money.

Football acumen that just cannot identify their own players strengths and set up a style that suits.

I thought there was something a while ago that might have upset those in charge. Wharton should be clearly ahead of some of those other young lads. Remember how Mahonney got jerked about as well, Hart arrived out the blue then has kept being farmed out but got a new contract in the midst of it. Someone's face just doesn't fit with the ex Boro gang.

That could be down to allsorts of factors. As far as fans are concerned he's 22 he's a local lad and they'd like to see what he can do but from outside looking in it seems old Tone is having one of his stubborm moments again here. Like i said if they sign a couple of decent one's fair enough but as it stands he should have a look in as back up.

It says he was a few years less experienced then he was behind Lenihen and never going to oust people like Mulgrew. I certainly wouldn't hold that against him. They've farmed him out to get games and experience and that's what he's done so you'd think especially in our situ he'd be ready for a squad spot here for a season or half at least. If they really don't rate him surely they'd have let him go a while ago.