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You are probably right there Den. Committees are most definitely not my scene. I wish you all luck and if asked (can't think why) to help in any way that I can I will gladly if it's within my powers to do so but I do adhere to an old truism frequently used by an ex work colleague of mine.......... "nothing works well that is run by a committee". Paradoxically the same chap often said 'if you want to get a job done then ask a busy man' and I suspect that there are more than one or two of those in that group. Good luck with it guys.

No in fairness you are wrong there andy. Apart from Scotty who as everybody knows is just plain ignorant I'd say the others are divided 50:50 between people with similar outlooks to myself and people who are diametrically opposed but who are mature and intelligent enough to discuss and debate in a proper manner...... (Paul took quite a bit of training though but he's 'come to' a bit recently )

Oops sorry Klur. But if you are really cn174 then shame on you for having 2 accounts. You'll get banned before you start if you aren't careful.

The wording of your post sounds like you should also be on the list clare (Quote Paul........No secrets thenodrog: Scotty, stuwilky, den, Kiwiwannabe, Glenn, Ste, Tris, Paul.). Or is it just another man thing? Few more questions that I am forwarding as they occurr to me. 1. This 'fully democratic' bit' Paul. Is the list of individuals above ** expected to work like a Golf club 'council' unelected and permanent but all the while running in the background of a regularly elected committee? If so then I suggest a member of the fairer sex and a representative of the IndoPak community be installed. Or am I just being overly PC yet again? 2. Will any posts involve remuneration for anyone or will the entire club be run on a voluntary (+ certain expenses of course) but essentially non-profitmaking basis? 3. ** btw does that list include mates and interested parties or does everyone on there possess certain special and necessary abilities required for this project?)

Hmmm. So c'mon Paul. Why such thinly veiled secrecy? Spill the beans and tell us who are these 'like minded' guys? I'm sure that we'll all be familiar with their board persona. (Especially as so few 'normal' members have access to reading mail to that particular website. ) Another question.... Why start another fragmentory group? Whats wrong with joining or enhancing some existing BRFC based organisation?

Thats odd. Apart from the result of course I really enjoyed that game! That was the most open end to end game that we have seen all season and after our mainly defensive performances since MH realised just how poor we were it was like a breath of fresh air. Dont forget Fulham absolutely tonked Norwich the week after. btw If any verification was necessary that Sparky's decision to off-load Stead was the right one that game was it. Given a proper striker its fair to say that we could have won that game 6-3.

Agreed. In fact I hope that he is the leading scorer in Sunderlands failed fight against relegation! So long as none of his goals take a single point off us. He's gone now to play with one of our bottom half Prem rivals..... lets cut the crap and get a sense of perspective about the situation eh?

Yep so we are told, i meant last season though. So he would have been on his large contract. It's basically like getting rid of jano as if we don't play him he doesn't get paid! 323508[/snapback] Nice lad who was a panic buy that got plenty of luck in front of goal but who used it all up in the first season (thank goodness). But its plain as a pikestaff that Stead will never be a top striker in the Prem. So dont be all maudlin ya big soft gits ........we've got 1.8 million for a 3rd / 4th choice benchman.

If that cures him then good. He certainly wasnt the player who started with us after that injury. I wonder if Dickov has been under the knife too?

Ferdinand and his agent like Ashley (thanks Flopsy) Cole have simply been used by Chelsea as a financial weapon against their biggest rivals. Simple as. Chelsea dont particularly want either player of course but by forcing Man Utd and the Arse to run scared of them and match their over alleged offers or risk losing face with their fans. Thereby smashing any wage policies within the two clubs and starting a free-for-all by the rest of the players and players agents to triple up their own wages, means that they have no money left to improve their squads! Result is that Chelsea have financially gelded their biggest rivals at a stroke for the foreseeable future without actually laying any money out. The FA 'fines' are of course chicken feed to them and have been a minimal investment in relation to the returns that they will reap. Clever....... but totally transparent and ruthlessley unethical ploy by Kenyon and Mourhino in using the russians billions to bully the world of football. Problem is that they'll get football done away with between them.

Dear 'Asexual, politically impotent Colin............Waddya mean 'back to em'? We never left them in the first place. btw roversmum....... re that daft vid.........since when has Blackburn become a city?

Too many cheating Dioufs, Boa Mortes, Reyes, Dyers, Pires etc and not enough honest to goodness Todds, Savs, Sparky's, Scholes, Bowyers, Shearers and Flittys etc. Refs who cannot tell a dive from a foul. FA PFA Cockney based big club loving Press and Media pigdogs. Especially those 5 Live and Talksport commentators who wrongly dissed Todd all the time I was travelling up the motorway from Cardiff. The demise of the maximum wage, home clubs keeping gate receipts, Johnny Bosman which have all contributed to big cllubs getting ever richer and puffyarsed players who earn....... sorry are paid so much that they have lost all touch with reallity. Sven Goran Erikson the most tactically clueless manager of all time and his 4m salary. Big Sam never standing a cat in hells chance of being chosen to replace SGE by the 'establishment'. JimMk2 Old Riverside based gits in triblys who booed Sherwood and praised Atko....... (prob the same as the previous) National Stadium at Wembley instead of the Midlands. Fergytime Arrogant Portugese ladyboy impersonators Champions League format......... they are NOT having a larf! They are just ensuring that the rich get richer. The demise of football reports in the papers from the lower divisions. Rubles. Squashed up seating areas. People leaving matches early and blocking the views of others. Automatic red cards for retaliation. South American football. World Cup Finals always being played out in hot countries in the height of midsummer.

The football bit is pointless of course, but I must say one or two of our squad look quite tidy to me. If they want to boost attendances I suggest they play in Beach Volleyball kit.

I'd trust Benitez to create a team good enough to beat Chelski. He's already done that Philip. btw I'm not so sure about Benitez but he's a bit like Sparky in that he's not had time to assemble his own squad yet.

Stead is the best striker at the club, alright that doesn't say much but we shouldn't be selling someone of his age. We were being offered around £1 million for Dickov in January from Birmingham weren't we? He should go first because of his age. 319027[/snapback] Rubbish for every goal Stead has scored Dickov has scored 5! Playing Stead all season would have seen us visiting tTurf next year. What are you on Le Chuck?

Cos he makes Didier Drogba look like Van Basten! On last nights showing I prefer John Stead ffs! Liverpools result was indeed magnificent but they are awful in reallity. We have had a poor season yet have lost only one more game than them! I cannot think that any of last nights players other than Riise and Gerrard would have got in the last Lpool team to play in the final! Even carragher, superb player that he is would not have shoved Hanson or more particularly Lawrenson out of that team.

Sorry sidders but to my untrainred ear this sounds far more like Marvin the Paranoid Android from the TV series of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. I'm serious read it again in Marvin mode................ "I see this site is funded by sponsors. Waste of money really when people insult each other and make sarcastic remarks most of the time. I didn't say get rid of them they should put the club up for sale first. I know decent offers might not come immediately but eventually one would. Maybe someone like Whelan with a smaller fortune but who would offer better transfer funds. Anyway keep taking the ###### at my expense. Sod my feelings. I haven't said a single insult towards any other user. I think that's one good side of my character to ignore such insults. Anyway prolong the thread designed specifically to have a go at me. Im sure its highly entertaining for you." So here we all are, brains the size of planets and all we have to listen to is this numpty whineing on and on and on and on until the end of time as we know it...... or at least until the dolphins and the white mice arrive. Anyway halfchat I'll save you some time......... the answers 42!

If this guy isn't a knuckle scraping dingle then his dad certainly was! Dont just terminate...... EXterminate asap.

Unless there has been a dramatic ageing or loss of desire for the game, I saw enough of him in a Brum shirt to know he is a hugely effective player when fully fit. 318106[/snapback] Agreed but I suggest editing the word 'effective' and replacing it with the more accurate 'influential' Philip. In short we have not signed a great player but rather a tough tackling player who puts in 100% in every game and leads by example from the front. In short a captain.

Old Al is a touch cumbersome now but his ability on the ball is still fantastic, his finishing is without comparison and he rarely wastes possession and can still hold the ball up for supporting players better than anyone in the prem. I just wonder where we would be and how many £600,000's we would be better off if we could have swopped him for either Stead / Dickov in August.

TP's favourite team in his time at BRFC as published in the LET. "My greatest Rovers side" During his 34-year spell at Blackburn, Tony Parkes has seen some great players come and go. Here, he picks his greatest Rovers team of all time - a side he believes would be good enough to win the Premiership title... I cant argue with much EXCEPT his inclusion of Barry bloody jockstrap Ferguson! Especially over the likes of Tim Sherwood. Granted Sherwood played in a better team but even on a good day Ferguson could never come close to competing with the influence Sherwood could exert over a game. anyway here it is............. BRAD FRIEDEL I was fortunate enough to play with Roger Jones, who was a fine keeper in his day, but Brad Friedel gets my vote in this team. Without being disrespectful to Blackburn, Brad should have played for a bigger club. He should have gone to Arsenal or Manchester United two years ago after what was a magnificent season for him personally. They were both looking for a keeper at the time and, to be honest, he's always played well against Arsenal in the past so they could hardly say they hadn't seen him. Brad's what I would call a typical American sportsman. He's athletic, he's agile and he's got big, long arms which nearly touch his ankles when he hangs them down. He's a great shot-stopper, who's brave and he covers the ground quickly. The chance to go to an Arsenal or Manchester Utd has probably passed him by now but he could have gone there two or three years ago when he was in his prime. Thankfully for us, he didn't. HENNING BERG Henning was always a great defender, even when he was knocking on a bit. He wasn't the quickest, but he used his body well to get in between his opponent and the ball without managing to give a foul away. He read the game exceptionally well and I always thought he was a very clever player. Good defending is a dying art these days. A lot of modern day fullbacks seem to be good attacking players but defending comes second. Henning was also a great type as well. He played for Man Utd as a centre back and he was an excellent guy to have in the dressing room. COLIN HENDRY Colin was a huge personality and the crowd loved him almost as much as they loved Alan Shearer. He just epitomised what fans like in a footballer. You don't have to be a beautifully skilful player, fans like certain other things in a player as well. They want fully commited people who can head a ball and tackle. The thing with Colin was you could tell he was always giving everything he had. He was prepared to put his body on the line and he trained like he played. It was just as important him saving us a goal at one end as it was Alan Shearer scoring them at the other. KEVIN MORAN Kevin was an excellent centre half. He wasn't the tallest guy in the world, I think he was only about 5ft 10ins, so he was at a bit of a disadvantage playing in that position and he used to get a lot of cuts about the face as a result. But he was incredibly brave and very helpful with the other players, too. By the time he arrived at Blackburn, he had already played for Manchester United and Sporting Gijon in Spain so he was vastly experienced. It was just a joy to work with him and I often used to ask him for advice when I needed it in my early days as a caretaker. He used to play Gaelic football in Ireland as a youngster and you need to be tough for that. I think he brought those qualities to his game as a footballer. GRAEME LE SAUX Kenny bought Graeme as a young boy from Chelsea and he only cost us £600,000. At the time, there were very few decent left backs around in the game and Graeme developed into one of the best. He was a good footballer who had played further forward in the early part of his career and that helped him when he dropped back to left back. He got in the England side while playing for Blackburn. He had a great left foot, he was probably better attacking than defending, but as long as you're good at one of them then you've always got a chance. The fact he's still playing now at the highest level, at the age of 35, is a testimony to his quality. Off the pitch, I think Graeme was a little bit different to everyone else. He liked to read the Guardian and visit museums and he got a bit of stick from the rest of the lads for that, which meant he wasn't a favourite with some of the players. On the pitch though, you can't fault his contribution. BARRY FERGUSON I don't think people saw the best of Barry Ferguson at Blackburn Rovers. He got injured early on when he was just starting to find his feet in the Premiership, and then when he came back from injury he was just starting to flourish again when he moved on to Rangers. To be honest, I could have seen Barry going onto bigger things in the Premiership if he had stayed with us. He might have moved on to one of the big clubs eventually, but whether he ever comes back now or not has got to be doubtful. His decision to go back to Scotland means he will never be judged as a great player because as long as he's up there, he won't be playing against top class opposition week in, week out. For me though, he was a very good midfield player. He could break forward and score goals or he could sit in there and play. He was a good passer, he knew the game, and he could do everything. I'm sure once he'd got the pace of the game down here he would have gone on to become a huge star. HOWARD KENDALL Howard was player-manager when he came here and he was a lot like me in terms of he played for the team instead of himself. He would often sacrifice his own game to win a match for the club, which isn't always easy to do as a player because you often want the plaudits for yourself. He was a top class player and very unlucky not to get a full cap. He loved to get forward and support the front players from midfield. He didn't have much time for midfielders who dropped deep and got it off the back four. He much preferred to see them further forward and in more dangerous positions. It's not easy to juggle the roles of player and manager, but Howard did it pretty successfully at Blackburn. STUART RIPLEY Stuart was a strong, powerful runner and he came to Blackburn having spent a lot of his early career playing in a free role at Middlesbrough. Initially, he wanted to roam and he had to learn how to play right sided midfield when he came here, which meant he had to become more disciplined. He was a good crosser of the ball but he could also run through the middle as well if he drifted inside. He worked extremely hard for the team and in that title-winning team he was ideal. DAMIEN DUFF I am sure Damien Duff would be in everyone's favourite Blackburn Rovers side. When he first came onto the scene he was only a young lad but you could see straight away that he was always going to go on and become a top, top player. Left footers have always got an advantage anyway, but Damien was a good lad who improved as time went on and the great thing was he always wanted to get better. Over the years, he also managed to add goals to his game, too. He wasn't interested in that to begin with, he just thought the job of a winger was to get crosses into the box and create goals for others. He was one of those players who could pick the ball up and travel great distances with it, and I'd certainly pay money to watch Damien play. From the fans' point of view, I don't they get any greater enjoyment than watching young players like Damien come through the ranks. To be honest, I don't think he really wanted to leave Blackburn in the end because he wasn't that ambitious at the time. If Chelsea hadn't come in with such a big offer, he might still be a Blackburn player now. ALAN SHEARER Alan was the perfect centre forward. He could hold it up and if he did go out wide then he would take the centre half with him and knock in a great cross. He had the ability to score all kinds of goals - spectacular ones, tap-ins, headers and volleys. He could score you a goal from 25 yards by dropping his shoulder and making a yard for himself, just like he did on his debut against Crystal Palace. On top of that, he was a great leader, too, who wanted to win football matches. He was single minded, particularly when the ball was in the box. I think it's fair to say, Alan was the finest centre forward of his generation. If you were looking for a striker to play down the middle then Alan was your man. Some strikers can score goals but they can't do everything else you need a centre forward to do. Alan was different, though. He could do the lot. SIMON GARNER Simon gets in the team just for his goals alone. You could have taken Simon straight off the Riverside and given him a shirt, and that's how the fans saw him, too. They saw him as one of them. Someone you could meet him in a pub and have a drink with him because there was no airs and graces about him. He was an instinctive finisher. If anything dropped in the box it was in the back of the net before you could blink. One on one situations perhaps weren't his biggest strength when he had time to think about what he was doing, but overall he was a wonderful goal scorer and a lad who scored fours and fives in games. Not many strikers do that. And finally....the manager KENNY DALGLISH Kenny has got to be the manager of the team because he's the one who has achieved the most in my time at the club. To win the Premiership title at a time when Manchester United were so dominant, and to a lesser extent so were Liverpool, has got to go down as one of the great achievements in Blackburn's history. I've been fortunate enough to work with a lot of good managers in my career and Blackburn became something of a breeding ground for a lot of them in those early days. Quite a few moved on to the First Division from here in the 1970s and 80s. Managers either got good jobs from Blackburn or they got the sack, there was no in between. It started with Ken Furphy going to Sheffield United, then Gordon Lee left for Newcastle, Jim Smith went to Birmingham and Howard Kendall joined Everton. But Kenny has to go down as the best of the lot for winning the championship. A brilliant achievement that will never be forgotten.

Well over £300.00 per game! Nice one Kenyon..... stiff the southern numpties good and hard. In fact give em one for us.

Worn out? He's hardly played this season ffs! All that I can say is that its a damned good job that Dickov didn't get hurt in the autumn.

This is nothing really new is it? How many times have we heard that 'money is ruining the game'? All this talk of money and greed is simply stripping off the thin veneer and uncovering the raison d'etre for the very existence of professional football. The indictment of trhe FA in Philips link here, http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/sto...1483892,00.html is spot on. I frequently wonder how, since the days of the abolishment of the maximum wage in the early sixties we have replaced the vibrant and supremely challenging 1st division with a carbon copy of the farce annually carried out north of the border in Scotland.

What! The RFW to 'resign'?!? Never. Surely he would never forego all that lovely compensation that he is surely entitled to if he stays and is potted on Glazier's instruction? As a sweetener to the many MU fans ('Sad@#/?s' as they should be widely renamed from today ) Glazier has said that they have 20 million to spend this summer. That would be about two thirds the amount that they have spent apiece on Rooney and Ferdinand in the past! I'd hate to be a Manc working in an office full of Chelsea fans today! Oh well 'those that live by the sword shall die by the sword' as they say. Que Sera Sera!