RevidgeBlue

Yep. We were clearly flagging quite badly before Christmas but kept ourselves in it just about with spirited wins over Boro and Portsmouth. For management and owners not to back them after that after working so hard to get into a decent position must be so demoralising for Eustace and the squad. They must be thinking "Why bother?'

Waggot claimed (Fans Forum minutes) that he was in the process of making a request for funding for the January window on 25/11. Unsubstantiated rumours since then that Suhail might have advised Waggott it would be a bad time to ask them so not to bother. Still 6 days or so of the window to go but so far the proof of the pudding etc etc

Spot on.

I'm guessing you don't know any differently. From memory It's not the first time that particular suggestion has been made and it wasn't him who made it originally.

Was it not you who posted the other day that we'd made an increased "take it or leave it" offer of 1m E expiring on Friday whereas they wanted 1.2m? Either way doesn't really look like it's happening, tyre kicking as usual.

SHOULD be well within our ballpark after all the recent sales shouldn't it? Sell SS for £9m, bring this guy in for '6m. That's how it'd work at a normal Club.

You're getting boring on Pears now. He's had a fairly good season overall.

You're contradicting yourself completely there.

OneEustace was completely wide of the mark with a major prediction in summer. (I think)

They're only supposed to provide a personal guarantee. Which seemingly they're not willing to do otherwise they would have discontinued the proceedings.

Do you think they know enough about Kargbo or are interested enough to go "Yeah go ahead, sign him if you want but only go up to £1m E , to be honest we don't think he's worth £1.2m" (Bearing in mind that according to most they don't even know when we're playing)

That was then and this is now. How much have they put in over the last couple of years as opposed to monies brought in.?

I bet it isn't the owners telling Waggott to put deals at risk and cut corners by haggling over a couple of hundred thousand Euros or so.

You wouldn't put it past them. His "replacement" is already in the building and is clearly far worse so it's just the sort of bat shit crazy move they'd make just in case our chances haven't been destabilised enough already.

That's the top and bottom of it. Our recruitment SHOULD centre around identifying which players we think would really improve the team or squad roughly within our budget and go out and get them. Pay a little bit extra if necessary if we think he's the right one. Instead the search seems to centre around not going beyond a certain price rather than the specific suitability of the player for us, as a result of which we always miss out on our initial targets and nearly always end up on our C or D list (at best) towards the end of the window. And even then we never seem willing to pay the asking price which more often than not leads to a Mexican standoff and us missing out leaving us in last chance saloon scatting about for anyone left on loan in the last day or two. Been going on for years but particularly noticeable this window given our dire need to recruit at the start of the .month and the fact any funding shouldn't have been a problem in light of the recent sales.

Why would anything be close? We haven't matched the asking price.

Yeah, was going to say you can bring a keeper in an emergency anyhow can't you?

I think you're letting your imagination run away with you a bit, I can't see any possible advantage to "John" arising out of that scenario.

As was Toth on Wednesday but plenty of posters tried to absolve him of blame for that as well.

He already has last summer according to Paul Mani. Very much hoping Eustace doesn't walk out or get another job because that puts us one step away from oblivion imo but IF he did, surely not even Waggott or the LT would be able to put a positive or even normal spin on two highly regarded coaches walking out in 12 months.

Still not following you. Are you alleging they're borrowing money to get their hands on liquid cash and then simply not bothering to repay it or are not somehow meeting the conditions of any loans? They attracted the attention of the Authorities for using Rovers holding Company to purchase non Rovers related things. Something completely different.

Grabbi was terrible, we got absolutely shafted on that one. Someone I know visited Ternana and said you could more or less have bought the entire town for £7m, let alone the Club, let alone Grabbi. Allegedly Souness asked for the top scorer in whatever Division they were playing in at the time and thought he was getting a centre forward.

Not sure what point you think I was trying to make but I never said any different? I was railing against the suggestion he's not entitled to feel hard done by because he knew or should have known what they were like in the past.

You'd have thought so. Unless Levy doesn't want to pay him off.

Might be missing the point but even if thats true,why would you want to 'launder' legitimate SBI funds?