RevidgeBlue

Never said anything different. We dont however know the full story behind this alleged offer of outside investment. Even if it existed, the terms being offered might might have been completely unrealistic. Bottom line is I dont think the owners really want to own a men's or a women's team any longer. The only job for Gestede and Pasha et al is to extract any remaining value whilst keeping themselves in lucrative employment for as long as they possibly can. Id say they're merely finishing off the process initiated and perfected by Waggott over many years personally, but like a player who's injured for a long time and who suddenly turns into Pele in the minds of the supporters in their absence, Waggott seems to have turned from public enemy number one or maybe two to Sir Stephen of Sandwich Kent on a galloping white steed or something since he was potted.

There isn't a separate loan window. Free agents can join any time as long as they were free agents before the window shut.

Very few players play forty odd games a season. I don't know what your problem is with him. You're obsessed with it.

Allegedly Waggott sourced potential backing for the women's team from a Company which in return would have wanted to acquire a stake in the same but the owners refused. As it was a good news story about Waggott which emerged more or less immediately after he got potted I'd treat it with a lorryload of salt myself but whether or not that part is true it does seem to be the general consensus he didnt want to take the blame for the women's team being binned off.

He joined slightly late, played 24 times and picked up one reasonably serious injury which kept him out for a number of games. Hardly "all the time".

Yep. Then you lose the Championship TV money and it's "How can we possibly compete with the "Boltons" or "Bradford's" of the Division. Rinse and repeat.

Ah yes, Forshaw who's mysteriously vanished off the face of the earth. What a good signing that was. Bet he's great around the dressing - I mean - treatment room

Who's the other one, Goddard? So one 18 year old kid who's miles off the first team and a guy who was only on a short term deal until the end of the season originally. And who's a clear downgrade on the guy he replaced. (Not having a go at you)

I think they were "great" for the Club at the time given the financial restrictions they had to work under. And they produced two out of the three playoff chasing seasons you seem so proud of elsewhere in your post!

Not downplaying what has happened to the women but the same thing (in essence) thats happening to the men, albeit the dismantling of the men's side is being done rather more subtly. Edit: Jackson seems to like doing fluffy PR pieces on all aspects of the Club. Perhaps he'd care to do one on the women?

I know the commentators were raving about Anderson (and trying to excuse the performance in general) but I didnt think he was that good. "Capable" was the way I'd describe his performance. I think we'd have seen a lot more from Wharton had he played against that sort of opposition but on the basis that possession is nine tenths of the law that is a worry. He needs to get himself fit and stay fit and force himself back into the reckoning.

Nail,hammer, head. For all the praise in certain quarters about "spending £12m" or "spending "£4m -£5m over the transfer budget" it had to be done simply so we could put a vaguely competitive looking side out** The transfer business this summer was about desperately trying to plug some of the holes left by outgoing players for less money. It wasn't an intentional attempt to improve the squad. It wasn't a case either of us selling one player for a huge sum and then being in a position to spend a fraction of that on a replacement and pocket the rest like when Wharton or even Szmodics were sold. **Sadly, probably not competitive enough.

Wow. Para 1) Pretending Dolan doesnt count as a player who refused to sign a new deal this summer. Classy. You yourself said you would have offered to put Dolan into our top bracket of earners on £15 k p.w. which clearly never happened Para 2) You can insist it's all down to greedy players/agents if you like but in the last few seasons we've seen at varying levels Rothwell/Lenihan/Nyambe/Brereton/Dolan/Travis/Brittain/Hyam/Batth and Weimann all refuse to commit to new deals. That's if they were ever offered anything at all. Just the odd ten players. And driven out two great Head Coaches in the process. Never the Club's fault, always the greedy players huh? Para 3) It's useless setting a wage cap if it's too low for the Division we are in Para 5) The Pears "situation" appears to be that he's been completely frozen out therefore we're paying him good money for absolutely nothing. Seems to be acknowledged by Jackson at the LT. Are you denying that's the case? Para 6) We didn't bring in a Hyam replacement so thats why there is debate. No point saying "it would have been ok if we'd done X,Y or Z". We didn't!

Im sure there'll be net savings on incidentals as well but Im not really bothered by that. I just can't get my head round anyone trying to spin a £2.5m trading surplus over the summer as a £4m - £5m overspend on a £5m transfer budget. To me that would mean purchases of £9m and sales of zero. Each to their own though.

Genuine question because I dont know, but would that be part of Rhodes' remit? If we've decided we're not keeping them on, is it our job to fix them up with a new Club? Sounds callous I know. They'd have been Ok if good old Uncle Tone was still here. He'd have kept them all on until they were 35.

I must be in a minority of one but I didn't think Radford was all that bad. Obviously well past his best by the time he joined us but you could see his quality in flashes.

So you dont even acknowledge we sold £12.7m worth of players? Just because Gestede said in the car crash interviews that sales made no difference to the transfer budget, it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. You're treating it as the done thing because the Club via the 3 stooges said at one point it was the way things happened here. Vi also said after a certain point in the window that anyone going out would be replaced. Where's Hyam's replacement?

Don't be silly. Anyone's better than nothing. Even Gallagher. A rare outbreak of common sense from the Regime if true although they've probably just been looking at the cost of free agents and had a nasty shock. Pity they didn't experience a similar moment of clarity before Hyam was sold.

You're twisting words there to make it sound impressive. If we'd spent £5m on players and not sold anyone then that would have been spending a £5m transfer budget on players. We're probably around £2.5m in profit from this summer's dealings having sold Hyam.

That's poor even by your standards chaddy. We've replaced our Captain and the heartbeat of the team with someone who we dont seem to have any idea when he'll be fit. We could be down before he's fit for action or at least before he's properly match fit. If we'd signed a suitable replacement for Travis and then this guy had come in in addition as a relatively low cost gamble that would have been fine.

That's not really a fair comparison as the two were starting from two completely different levels. VI inherited a squad that finished 7th then instead of building on that, him and the regime CHOSE to completely dismantle the squad. Eustace inherited a squad that narrowly avoided relegation but Id still expect Derby to finish comfortably above us. Along with about 21 other teams. I predicted us to finish 22nd at the start of the season and I've not seen much to change my mind yet.

According to reports we got £3.5m for Travis and Brittain and £2.7m for Hyam. Then roughly £1m each for JRC Buckley and Leonard. Don't try to make out as though we actually spent any money this summer.

What, do you think there's actually the faintest chance he'll finish 6th or above?. If you do you make chaddy look like a pessimist!. He's no excuse not to mind - he's got all these more mobile athletic types he wanted.

I remember him having a particular obsession with getting Steven Warnock out of the Club years ago. Cant remember if it was about Warnock specifically or just in general but I called him out at some point and he didn't like it. Got fairly abusive. Wonder if he ever found "Dan Williams". Probably riding around on Shergar with Lord Lucan somewhere.

There's a big difference between those two, Howard was looking for somewhere to cut his teeth in management and luckily we made the genius move of appointing him. Stapleton was a great player in his prime, but I thought he was absolute bobbins at Rovers, just going through the motions.