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Incredibly harsh. But if he was a similar age or younger coming here on loan from a Premier League Club and had no top level experience I bet you'd be all over it!

No real need for the gratuitous political barb but I like the idea. ? I'll donate £10 now to the National Deaf Children's Society, £10 at the end of the season if we finish above Boro and, as I don't think that'll come in, £5 for each League goal Gallagher scores. I'll probably be able to afford another £20 at the end of the season!

Based on what?

We've got one. Wharton. Need to get the first choice CB and LB in first before we start worrying about back ups!

Ah, that would explain why he's so good!

Spot on. It reminds me (imo) a bit of Lambert flogging Rhodes on the last day of the January window. "I'm only here for another 3 months so why should I care?"

The only advantage to that surely is that it doesn't have players knocking on the manager's door complaining they're only on £20k and he's on £30k. (p.w) It still comes out of the same pot at the end of the day so it either leaves you in the same amount of debt, or if FFP is still in effect, it's still going to put you over.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think what Waggott has done is within the letter of the law and I think he knows that as well otherwise, if legally he had no need to refund, he would not have been pleading with fans not to make the request. I do think you are spot on with your fifth paragraph about what SHOULD have happened but I also think the main point is not about whether Waggott has acted within the letter of the law as I think in practice numbers of requests for refunds would have been relatively small and the number prepared to take it even further would have been even smaller. Overall this would vindicate Waggott's belligerent stance from a very short term financial perspective even though imo he technically hasn't a leg to stand on. The main point is however how they're treating the fan base at a difficult time for everyone and how they can possibly expect to retain decent numbers of customers with an attitude like that.

Exactly right, it's the tone and attitude (not the lack of a refund per se) that is most offensive. Incredibly shortsighted too. Numbers actually wanting a refund would probably be relatively small, but it's unlikely anyone wanting a refund who got a response like that will be back. So for every £60 - £90 saved on a refund you're risking losing £350 p.a. indefinitely.

You're obviously an intelligent chap so I'm guessing you know very well that the clause you refer to (drafted before anyone ever heard of Covid) means that any ST holder who is ill, wakes up with a hang over, or has to go to work, or go to their daughter's birthday party or simply can't be arsed going etc quite rightly can't go running off to Rovers for a refund for that game. Any attempt to twist the clause round and interpret it in a way that it meant rhe Club didn't have to provide refunds if a match didnt take place would be laughed out of Court. As for "Force Majeure" it releases Rovers from the need to perform obligations under the contract if the event in question has made those obligations impossible to fulfill but it doesn't mean they can simply keep the money for those unfulfilled obligations if they've been paid for them in advance does it?

You must have difficulty understanding plain English or something. That refund clause relates to Rovers understandably not having to provide refunds if the customer cannot attend an individual game through some fault or reason of their own. The other clauses relating to possibly having to change customers' seats in the event ofextreme weather or excluding liability for personal injury are irrelevant to this discussion.

Story goes they couldn't or wouldn't meet his demands any longer which you'd think would make any suggestion he'd come here extremely far fetched.

Good lad Chaddy! You're reaching so far there you must be nearly toppling over but I love your doggedness and indefatigability! I wish you were in charge of getting our transfer deals over the line. You'd lock the buggers in the room without food and water until they sign on the dotted line! ??

They really won't!

We'll see. In our case it's probably a question of whether we sign the two quality defenders we need to go straight into the starting eleven as opposed to "will we sign anyone at all" as I expect we'll see a couple of peripheral signings to pad out the squad that aren't particularly needed.

Absolute nonsense. Waggott probably would be stupid enough to spend thousands of pounds of legal costs defending a £90(?) claim in the small claims Court but it wouldn't get him very far. Secondly, the situation between last season and this season is completely different. The Club contracted to provide 23 games in the flesh at Ewood Park last season. If we'd put season tickets on sale this season it would have been on the strict understanding that there would be no refunds in the event of Covid enforced non attendance. Completely different. I don't understand why anyone can't see that.

Disgraceful indeed. Not a hint of contrition or an apology. The Club use emotional blackmail initially saying we "hope" fans won't pursue refunds and insinuating that you're not a proper fan if you do request one, but nevertheless inferring they will actually be available to anyone who really needs one or wants one badly enough. However when push comes to shove the attitude changes to "you can like it or lump it". Absolutely appalling. I've never known anything like it. If you genuinely can't afford to give refunds, first and foremost, apologise but at least be up hront and honest about it as well.

And......I think everyone would cut the Club a bit of slack if it was just this window but with us it's every window since we were promoted. Mowbray made a comment in the LT at one point to the effect that it was one thing getting players out of Gillingham (Dack) and another thing entirely signing Championship players. Our recruitment team seem way out of our depth at this level.

The difference though is: Warnock acknowledges the need for reinforcements. Mowbray seemingly doesn't see the urgency. Edit: "Warlock" Lol. Bloody predictive text. Maybe that's how he gets them in.

He's an exceptionally brave man if the family had agreed on another move within this Country then he unilaterally scrapped that in favour of a previously undiscussed move out to Saudi he hadn't run by "she who must be obeyed" first!

Correct. I haven't adjusted properly to the fact the season didn't start with the opening League game.

I know if he isn't a Rovers fan but if I was previously happy with the overall package of moving to Blackburn Rovers it would have to be a very lucrative counter offer indeed that blew my existing offer completely out of the water to make me change my mind at that late stage. We ihave no idea f that's actually the case or not It's not like he's got a late offer from The Premier League or La Liga or anything so like I say it doesn't exactly scream commitment on his part. I still can't see it happening. If I was the Club and we were contemplating off ering a player that age a deal which stretched or possibly broke our wage structure I'd now be looking at it with a degree of caution as well if he came back to us simply because his other deal had broken down. You never know but I can't see it happening.

? Over to you caddy......... ?

He can't have been very interested in coming in the first place then. Will still be very surprised indeed if that one happens.

Can't see much for us here. They'll be on a high after tonking West Ham and we'll probably be starting the season off with 2 straight defeats. I'd go: Kaminski Nyambe Wharton Lenihan Bell Travis Davenport or Buckley Holtby Dolan Brereton Chapman