RevidgeBlue

The bloke (Mowbray) is a disgrace. Knows Rothwell won't sign for him therefore is trying to stick the boot in and make out Rothwell isn't that good anyway before he (Mowbray) departs the Club as well. If you were being offered the same or similar money here as elsewhere why would any player worth his salt want to sign for Mowbray? If he is allowed to see his contract out that decision will cost us dearly regardless of our final finishing position this season.

I'd go a step further and say it's been in decline since Mark Hughes left.

Hmm...... if he was granted a new deal then maybe. Perhaps the FFP mess Mowbray got us into ironically dictated a pragmatic approach of not incurring further expense by not paying him off unless it was absolutely necessary?

Glad you edited and put the last bit in, I was about to post as you seemingly feel Mowbray is doing such a fabulous job then by extension you must also be full of praise for the owners both for appointing him initially and keeping him in situ recently.

If any of them sign new deals maybe.

So according to you we pay the wages out of our own income and then have a separate £20m loss? Where do you think that £20m p.a. disappears to if not on players wages?

I thought someone posted a table on here without Venky's input which tended to suggest that once their £20 m p.a. contribution was taken into account we were actually about 4th in terms of overall finance. Happy to be proved wrong if that's incorrect.

Why wouldn't you?

Funny how when Brereton wasn't doing so well he was apparently a player foisted on an unwilling manager by the owners............ And we netted around £10m for Armstrong so if the others walk for nothing £50m is a bit optimistic to say the least! Gallagher good business? Reel 'em in Gav!

Have to say that whilst I may disagree with the views of those who come on and make out that everything is OK after a win they are perfectly entitled to have that point of view. I think in general the mods are far too quick to to complain about or remove posts they don't like in recent times.

It's unbelievable. I think some people assume players play for nothing. How much do people think Mulgrew and Evans were on? How much do people think Gallagher and Ayala are on?

By the end of the season roughly £100 m of the owners money on top of whatever income the Club has generated off it's own batt!

Given the backing he's had, I think it would have been impossible for virtually anyone else not to!

I'm afraid that's where we differ. Given the backing he's had I think he's done an appalling job overall.

Like I say I don't think either will happen unless we're in imminent danger of going down. Would that be my personal choice? No but there you are. By the end of the season Mowbray will most likely have burnt his way through roughly £100 m of Venky's money to not even finish in the play offs once. If people think that's an acceptable return, and seemingly some on here think it is, I despair.

As Mandy Rice Davies famously said "He would say that wouldn't he?"

Why, who else pre Mowbray and Waggott has walked for nothing? The only one I can think of was King and he was a bit of an odd case as he was absolute garbage until a few months before his contract was up.

Absolutely. Despite my hatred of Mowbray, I hope we get in the play offs, he takes us up, and proves me completely wrong. Do I think it will happen? Not a chance.

Absolute rubbish. Do you think Venky's fell out with Mulgrew and decided to pay him the thick end of £2m over 2 years to play for Fleetwood? Or decided to pay £5m for Sam Gallagher? Do you think Venky's chose to offer contract extensions to the likes of Evans Bennett and Graham? And temporary contract extensions to the likes of Smallwood and Hart. And a "we feel sorry for you" deal for Ben Gladwin? Do you think Venky's made a conscious decision to let the contracts of the likes of Nyambe, Rothwell, Lenihan, Kaminsky and Brereton run down potentially allowing them to walk away for nothing? Or do you think they trusted Mowbray and Waggott to manage the overall budget over the last few seasons properly and prioritise our better players accordingly? Do you believe the reason that no-one appears to be willing to re-sign is purely financial or at least partly to do with the fact that we currently have a lame duck management team that would never ever take us anywhere if allowed to remain in situ?

Well if you only go to the game for the day out and don't mind whether we win, lose or draw all power to your elbow. I'd like to think most supporters are far more selective than that. Maybe not.

Don't think he'll go this season unless we're in imminent danger of going down. SHOULD he be sacked tomorrow? Hell yeah.

Back in John Williams' day there were c80k people on the Club's database. Obviously not all of them will attend at any given time and some will have passed on but I believe the number is a lot higher again now.

Because there's no hope of progression until Waggott, Mowbray, Venus leave. This is just another wasted season assuming they are all allowed to see their contracts out and at the end of it we look likely to lose our best players if the status quo is maintained until then.

Yet as things stand it's likely to happen.

Critchley doing extremely well at Blackpool on a relative shoestring. A few on here have been touting him as a suitable replacement for Mowbray for a while.