2 wins from safety but I’ve no idea where they are coming from.

Are the rumours true that the stoke keeper has brought a hammock out for the 2nd half.

I wonder if the Bennett lottery wheel has been out at half time for a random change. Centre mid, full back, number 10, who knows.

Should be. Won’t be.

On seeing that team by the show of hands who is the least bit surprised. Good job we went so defensive wouldn’t have held out for 15 mins vs a team who can’t score.

Well who’d have thought he had a groin strain after all.

We’ll certainly contribute the 0. Over to stoke if they are hungry enough for the record...

Good of the football league and sky to honour that. As long as get the bare minimum notice all’s well suppose.

Yeah. This football lark ain’t cheap if dont just want to be bussed to a turnstile and back again. Train from Clitheroe would be £130, hotel £70, ticket £35 so £235 before had a drop of beer or food. That’s a great shout actually reckon we’ll do that.

We’d already booked a hotel anyway but on the basis rovers away is now 90% social aspect, 5% getting out the house and 5% rovers this ko rather eats into the night out. Was confident it would be moved due to the paymasters at sky so held off booking transport. Just looked and the train from Clitheroe to Norwich is £130. Ouch. Still would rather pay that or walk than get a bus free or otherwise. Football has nothing to do with fans so already made my peace with a ludicrous ko whether it was Friday, Saturday night or Sunday.

With runs like this I think back to roy Hodgson. We were top or as near as dam it at Xmas. Finished the season 7th ish which in isolation was fine but at the start of the following season we started how we’d finished the last season so he was potted. It’ll be very hard to break the losing cycle now. My gut feeling is we won’t. We should stay up but next season by Xmas I think we’ll be firmly in the relegation zone and then Mowbray will get his marching orders.

Another decent day out made worse by being coerced into attending the match. Dont feel I can really comment on the game having only endured 20 minutes of it. But for what that’s worth their no 7 dominated that. My level of interest is similar to the players level of interest. Ie minimal. I purely go for a day with the lads on the lash. In football the term big club is banded around by all sorts of minnows but with their history, fan base and honours I really do think of villa as a big club. That said villa park is the absolute pits. Anything but the home of a top club. Went down to the concourse after 35 mins. Hadn’t been served when the second got underway by which point they’d run out of all alcohol (a minimum for rovers). So after 25-30 mins of queuing at a woefully understaffed bar we buggered off to the pub where we should have stayed and saved £30.

We left the pub for this. Soon remedied.

Too good for us this lot. Routine tap in after 10 mins. Well what can you say.

To echo what others have said I do enjoy watching this group of young players. I always felt that in previous eras of “better” players they didn’t really give a toss about England and were all consumed by club rivalries. But whether it’s pride in playing for their country, playing for each other or not scarred by previous hideous failure this group seem to be different. That said I don’t expect us to win anything major it’s just nice watching a group of players who seem to have pride in the shirt. Far removed from toxic situation of Rooney swearing at fans at response to the fans getting on the players backs, etc. As a side note noticeable booing of the black players. Had England fans done that expect hefty fine and talk of expulsion from every tournament under the sun. But with the double standards uefa they will no doubt dismiss it as well it’s the Balkans/Eastern Europe what do you expect and move on.

In European qualifiers lost 3-2 to Croatia in 2007. In World Cup qualifiers lost 1-0 to Ukraine in 2009.

I’d be amazed if she gives rovers a seconds thought. Just something she bought once (probably wish she hadn’t) which requires a bit of cash every now and again. Everything about their tenure would suggest at best their apathy is such that success and failure are both met with a shrug of the shoulders and at worse their incompetence suggests deliberate sabotage.

Don’t have much sympathy for the brum fan but if he’d have done it to me outside a pub and a policeman witnessed it he’d probably get arrested (unless the Bobby’s shift was coming to an end) but almost certainly wouldn’t be sent to prison. And had a Birmingham player punched Grealish in exactly the same way he’d be sent off banned by the fa but I’d be very very surprised if he was ever arrested let alone jailed.

I think a football banning order is a minimum of 3 years maximum of 5. But I’d be astonished if this bloke doesn’t go to prison. I would think he’ll be charged with common assault therefore maximum sentence is 6 months. If he pleads guilty (no other option) he’s entitled to 1/3 off his sentence so can only get a maximum 4 months. If he’s got no previous convictions they’ll take that into account but as it’s a very public crime they might look to make an example of him.

Very apt. Thinking about it if there was merit in talk we’d have had a decade of sustained success.

This is all going a bit Gary Bowyer. Harmless blokes at the helm taken the club as far as they could yet with the venkys no one has any faith in a competent decision. With Bowyer it dragged on and I started to really dislike him I hope this doesn’t drag on in the same vein.

Pathetic.

1 point from 21 possible. Had we gone gung ho in these games and to hell the consequences it wouldn’t have been worse but we set up negatively and do nothing anyway.

Kevin included.