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Im guessing you wanted Coyle and Kean sacked. Did you boycott games until they left? Not only a ridiculous argument, but a hypocritical one.

Even those defending him at the time wouldnt have predicted what happened, especially as he hadnt done anything like that before. When you spend a decent fee for the first time in ages for someone mainly sat on the bench and once or twice out of the squad for the first half season, it doesnt warrant this mockery out of hindsight, they were valid concerns.

Has absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

Whether I rate Gueye and Ohashi or not, as has been touched on, one success and youve more than covered those. The 2 combined cost just over £1m, Ohashi in particular didnt scream potential future asset, hes 28 and cost a nominal fee. And obviously its not an exact science. But spend reasonable money and not only are we stronger now but theres likely a chance we can reduce our losses whilst benefitting in the mean time. Last time we spent anything reasonable, it was £4m on 3 players. For that, we have made a good profit on one player who scored lots of goals while here and covered the expenditure on 2 current and important first team players.

You mention about bickering about not making £17m losses into £37m losses by signing 10 more players, obviously an exaggerated comment. But he thing is, if they reinvested more, that doesnt just equate to more losses. Quite the opposite. The primary way that a football club can reduce losses is by player trading. If you invest in fees, you have assets, it only takes maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 to really come good (when we have spent fees we have seen this ourselves) and you make a profit on all fees invested. So quite the contrary to investing money equalling higher losses, it not only improves us on the pitch, it more than likely leads to SMALLER losses. Football as a business is a financial shit storm, basically if you are an owner you will have to subsidise losses. Our owners dont deserve praise for that. 19 of the 20 Premier League clubs are even doing it at the top level and the exception only doesnt due to government funding.

Well dont watch then. A really mature response knowing full well that the point I and others raise is correct. Constantly increasing TV deals inconvenience the matchgoing fans, the prices of tickets arent going down, basically all clubs are constantly making losses and running unsustainable business models, and the players are the ones that get more money. Its impossible to justify.

Hes English, add him to the list of reasons as to why we will win the next World Cup.

There shouldnt be that many games, it is all of these associations and companies together that are complicit in screwing over the fans. Its obviously not just the TV companies but they are part of it. End result? Players on stupid money, clubs at all levels pissing money out making losses, match going fans charged more and more and inconvenienced more in the process. The money goes to the top, everyone else especially us fans fucked over. Constantly increasing TV deals that dont help the losses because wages just go up and make it harder for fans. And people like you lapping it up.

But he isnt the one setting the budget and he isnt solely responsible for identifying players. And history suggests more often than not we are left disappointed.

Its the same every window. X other clubs havent signed anyone, which players that have gone elsewhere would you want, have patience FFS, total faith. Yet more often than not, our windows conclude with minimal spending and a sense of frustration that we havent got what we needed.

Neither was a foul by Trafford.

The problem isnt the channel. Its the inconvenience it causes matchgoing fans who should be the priority to facilitate supporters given the option to pick from various games from their armchair.

May I ask why you have faith? So faith in there being enough money to suitably strengthen and Gestede heading our recruitment to get a goalscorer and some pace within that. You keep saying this but obviously none of us know who they are. No one has said I wish we signed them.

If anything, the luck went against them tonight with 2 dodgy penalties. They clearly arent shit (they are professional footballers @chaddyrovers to coin your phrase, how can they be shit?!) because theyve conceded 9 goals all season and have 1 point short of 2 points per game.

I havent said that I dont trust Eustace and you are purposely twisting my words to suggest as such. I am saying is it possible/likely to get what we need to reach the play offs factoring in our likely small budget? And Eustace wont be the only one involved in deciding on who we go for. Weve spent probably a not dissimilar amount on 2 strikers already and the fact that we want another suggests that we didnt get it right on those occasions, and we are in a similar position in terms of finances. It is hard. I think the main fear is not having the requisite budget to improve sufficiently. That would be the most likely reason if we dont sign what we need, which isnt Eustace's fault. I dont see why people shouldnt see what fans of previous clubs think, look at stats, comment on injury records and comment on seeing a player in question play previously, positive or negative should they choose. It cant just be a case of, well he must be good enough if hes being signed as Eustace as approved it. I have never heard of some of the players signed. So I dont know if they are good or not. And I am not saying that we should have signed those particular individuals. It goes back to the point about when you have a bit of money, it makes it easier to then go out and sign players quicker. Especially when you broaden your horizons and choose not just from the limited domestic pool. We likely will be active in the loan market you would think, more likely than not. Do you have faith that we get the players we need in this window?

We will likely be waiting on loans which more often than not are only authorised by their parent club towards the end of the money.

That doesnt necessarily mean we will recruit what we need. Will Sanderson not be 4th choice? And you need 4 centre backs, its hardly a criticism.

Do you think/predict we will get what we need in this window?

Numerous teams have not read the rule book and have signed players for decent fees already. Who genuinely has faith that we can and will bring in what we need?

Either show it normally as a standalone game or leave it as Saturday at 3. Same with Sky at 12.30 putting on loads of games when you can only watch 1. No one gives a shit about fans.

Reports from where?

Those last minute mishaps arent specific to any individual, the same happened when we tried to sign DJ Campbell.

Exactly. If his sole focus was to make as much money as possible, as if any other manager comes purely for the love of it. Then promotion would have led to a considerable pay rise, maybe a bonus and maybe a new deal. If he was fearful that he would have been sacked upon promotion at some point. He would have then been paid up his contract and not had to work for it, "lining his pension fund" very nicely considering the pay rise, and had a far better CV as and when he then decided to go back to work. This is exactly where peoples dislike of him causes their arguments to become illogical and if you question it you are deemed an apologist. On purely football terms, his time here was clearly not horrid and him being manager would cause only the most unhinged of fan to have to stop following if he was in charge. He did a good job, promotion and 2 solid seasons, then 1 really poor season, then 1 when we overachieved considering we sold our best player and only really loaned players that season, albeit the way it unfolded clearly meant a change was best for everyone. He has his limitations and perhaps isnt the man to really push you on but West Brom have hardly appointed a bad manager, hes at least a steady pair of hands. If you sign a player, another club has to let them go so I dont think him being let go is the primary concern. We do need a goalscorer and he isnt a natural one by any means, hes not a natural finisher and his record in terms of goals shows that. He does offer other things notably pace and would probably be our best striker so he would offer something we need and also likely be some sort of upgrade, the question is whether he is the man to lead our attempt to score more goals and the jury is certainly out on if he is capable of that. That being said, it doesnt feel like it is about to be done any time soon if at all anyway.

Some people just lost all reason in terms of judging Mowbray and you would think years after his departure may have regained some balance but no. "Horrific" "couldnt stand him" and would have to avoid Rovers if he was here, deary me. Did a good job, stayed a bit too long, his departure was welcomed.

He clearly wasnt terrible and he brought through a number of academy graduates so im not sure how he threw them under the bus.