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Surely that would mean that threads for every non-Rovers thread or any game that has finished should be closed too? Or indeed people may want to discuss things outside specifically of just Rovers going forward?

10 minute segment on Tomasson here from 49 minutes. Analysis on him is mixed. Talk about his presence which ties in to the excitement from us since appointment. Also mentions of his coaching ability in regards to set pieces which is promising. Worries about his adaptation to a 46 game season from a 30 game season and also questions about how it became stale at Malmo in only season 2 and they limped over the line with his exit an inevitability.

Comparing apples and oranges in terms of right backs. Spence played the whole season as a wing back and that suits him, superb going forward at this level and suspect defensively. Nyambe is out of his depth as a wing back, as poor an attacking full back as you will see. Defensively though he is very good one on one and he has that physicality that helps him in recovery.

Big blow to lose Nyambe, not as much as Lenihan and perhaps on par with Rothwell and he does have big limitations but I have no confidence that we will sign an equal replacement on a small budget, and it is another hole to fill. If Nyambe was a free agent elsewhere, him signing here would be lauded. I think Waggott is an easy target specifically on this because he is (understandably, I fall into this category) under heavy scrutiny over other aspects of his role that he has fundamentally and consistently messed up, especially around ticketing. The main issue is the constantly shrinking budget, we need Venkys with the imminent Brereton funds to reinvest a large chunk to provoke an overhaul which is needed not only because of the gaps in the squad but also to help the manager take the club in a new direction. The players leaving we seemingly cannot compete with rivals in terms of wages whilst working under such restraints.

So I believe.

Burnley are close to signing Ballard from Arsenal for a couple of million. Would be a very shrewd signing unfortunately, very impressive at Millwall.

7 games in before the transfer window closes, we need to get the vast majority of our business done before the season rather than the end of the window. Blackpool away being midweek is a bit shit.

Thats just another sad act in his/her room wanting to be an ITK and creating random rumours chaddy, ignore it. 18 hours ago according to that, Cheltenham were closing in on Marlon Pack, he joined Pompey yesterday. It also says that CJ Hamilton is going to join PNE for 100k, as if that would happen.

Does he? Hasnt really done anything since/aside from a glut of goals in League 1, underwhelmed at Stoke and has injury concerns.

I see that the "announce x" tweeters are back commenting on everything the club tweets during the off season!

There is no point assuming that dubious online sources/guesses are accurate regarding wages.

Seems like a 2+2 assumption based on them being at Malmo but lets wait and see. That Berget is a 31 year old winger who played at Cardiff under Solskjaer and barely played, I think he signed a few Scandanavians but that was a long time ago.

Is he "very good" in the air? The occasional bullet header I will grant you but they are few and far between!

You are right in that it ultimately comes down to quality and we don't know if these players are good enough but even if they aren't it doesn't mean that they never will be. A loan spell is a very common way to develop players to bridge that gap between uncompetitive under 23 football and 2nd tier professional football. Take Wharton who a few years ago was well off Championship standard so went to League 2, impressed there whilst physically developing which then gave us some confidence that he could hack it at Championship level, the same could happen to Carter. The gap between Championship (as average a standard as it is) whereby results are the priority and playing against mainly players in their late teens that are still growing and the emphasis is development is a world apart which means that it is very difficult to gauge if they are up to the level. The examples you use are stand out examples but the key is not expecting ALL of the mentioned names to all break through together (likely some never will, history tells us that) at the expense of first team reinforcements. When Foden or Carvalho came through, neither City nor Fulham had that summer decided to sign 4 or 5 less players expecting that many players with no senior experience to all break through at once, on the back of a mass exodus of players leaving the club. The whole discussion stems from whether we can expect them all to break through or whether we should sign players and treat any breakthroughs as a nice bonus. I don't get the need for that final paragraph either. None of us are experts but it doesn't mean that our opinions shared on a messageboard need to be patronised and dismissed.

No but total novices at anything like Championship level.

Absolutely no chance whatsoever unfortunately that they will get relegated.

Lets hope so, it would be great if he could. You clearly haven't acknowledged or read my points though because you just keep reverting back to the same 2 well trodden lines.

Why is the default line something along the lines of being negative to constructive points? It's not negative to suggest that we can't automatically assume that we can rely on kids right now that haven't played senior football. I haven't said that they aren't or won't be good enough.

You posted that asking if @longsiders1882 was worried, having been fixated by Burnley's plight with regular comments about how you think they will struggle. It seemed a little bizarre considering the similarities! Lets break it down: Burnley fans have no idea what pre-season games they have - we seemingly have that sorted, give you that no kit has been unveiled (let alone available to buy) - same Team returned to training with none of Kompany's support staff announced - our manager and assistant can not take training at the moment, their manager seemingly can and as you said, Bellamy is on the staff no sponsors on training kit - fair enough, but hardly significant compared to the skeletal squad we have You are beyond naive if you think we don't need many players, we are weaker by a captain, a player of the season, a regular and key central midfielder, a key winger, most likely a first choice right back and our only goal threat, not forgetting at least another half a dozen squad players. Even if you think we need 5 or 6, that is half a team! Tomasson isn't going to say, "well I didn't want to keep the staff but I had to" is he?! Also, Peacock-Farrell is shit. Mistakes every other game.

The thing that I am saying is that I don't think that there is a significant difference between the goal threat he offers as a central striker and as a wide striker. See my analysis regarding his goal tallies as to what I mean: "I look last season, he got 9 often playing wide, some were central like the 2 you mention and v Boro, he scored v Cardiff and Swansea when he was coming from wide, against Boro at home he was as a wide striker. He got 8 the season before again often from wide. The season before that he got 6 and he played central more that season than in the last 2. He got 11 in more games (no injures unlike the last 2 seasons) predominately playing in a front 2 with 2 wide men in his initial spell." I think the whole "Mowbray needs to use him possibly" has skewed people's opinions because it was an easy stick to beat Mowbray with. It's all excuses ie if this happens and if that happens despite history showing little difference in goal threat regardless of position, just the common denominator that he has always had an average at best goal record. As I have shown above he doesn't really score more even when he is central, either way I don't think he will ever be a regular scorer. High single figures or at a push just over 10 is par with him. He also had a season at Birmingham where again he barely scored.

I think we need 8 or 9 personally, but as you say, we can't rely and assume on these players stepping up as it is an unknown. I would look to loan quite a few of these out because the gap between kids football and senior is so much that we could do with a good indicator of how close they actually are, rather than being on the fringes. Vale seemingly struggled in his last loan in non league and I thought Brown looked well off it at Birmingham, he is seemingly being banked on as a late developer as I am not even sure if the league he came from is fully professional.

Yeah, neophox was questioning his release.

We need to get signing players soon, business seems to be starting now and we cannot be left behind.

Twine (a stand out League 1 talent for a decent fee) and Jed Wallace (a proven top quality stand out Championship player no doubt on decent wages) would be 2 very shrewd additions and would prove the power of a recently Premier League side unfortunately if they got done. If Pope goes for £10m that could be the signing of the summer for Newcastle, worth far more than that and England's best keeper. Peacock-Farrell is a disaster so I suspect if Hennessey is over the hill then a new keeper will be a must. Much different to us? We have a manager still waiting a work permit, and when he does he has to work with mainly staff that were already here. We have lost loads of players for no money and are behind most in making signings ourselves. No sign of the kit and although it has been announced, it seemingly will be drip fed in.

Davenport is the one likely to be injured. Is £4m not a problem?!